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Blogging While Female — Warning, May Trigger

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A. Friend | ie@gmail.com | IP: 66.90.103.37

Heart, this is horrible. I’m sorry that this is happening to you. These people want nothing to do but to hurt you and your cause. I feel for you.

In fact, I want to feel you now. I’d like to tie you down, take a knife, and slit your throat. I’d penetrate you over and over in all orifices, and create some of my own to stick myself in.

— Aug 4, 1:57 AM — [ View Post ]

From my spam queue, and there are plenty of others, just as bad.

Heart

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120 thoughts on “Blogging While Female — Warning, May Trigger

  1. I’m so sorry Heart.

    What cowardly little shits these men are. Cowardly misogynists who don’t deserve to exist. It’s terrorism against women, proving the entire point of the post.

    That email is surely illegal, and counts as harrassment if not worse? Is there anyway of getting this rapist?

    Posted by Laurelin | August 4, 2007, 5:31 pm
  2. Laurelin, I don’t know yet. I’m looking into what we can do.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 4, 2007, 5:33 pm
  3. Ugh. There are really no words to describe the squalor of what passes for this guy’s mind.

    Posted by Branjor | August 4, 2007, 5:42 pm
  4. That’s a murder threat, not just harassment.

    Posted by Miranda | August 4, 2007, 5:46 pm
  5. Do you mind if I post that on my LJ? I’d like others to see the sort of email that feminists receive. I’ll leave your name off.

    Posted by Miranda | August 4, 2007, 5:49 pm
  6. Sure you can post it, Miranda. And where’s your LJ so I can add you to the blogroll?! If you want, of course.

    I don’t care if you use my name. It’s not as though the wrong people won’t read it, at this point! :/

    I think this stuff needs to be out there where the whole blogosphere, internet, and, for that matter, real world can see it. What, are these guys going to silence all of the outspoken feminists, women, or what? I totally understand what would cause a woman to say no more, who needs this. But if she knew that lots of women were getting the same treatment, she might say, “Me, too,” and “What can we do about this?”

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 4, 2007, 5:54 pm
  7. It’s so predictable. You write day in and day out about the depravity of men. Do they think they shock you? They certainly don’t shock me.

    Is it supposed to be scary that they write what you already know they think? They should realize that they are incapable of issuing a threat you haven’t already anticipated, and much more eloquently than they could ever muster at that. It must just get so tiresome for you, Heart. One would think that they could at least make their raving misogyny somewhat intellectually engaging if they must be so vulgar as to make contact at all.

    As if men wanting to rape women is anything new under the sun. Is it too much to ask to get a little originality with the hatred?

    Posted by justicewalks | August 4, 2007, 5:56 pm
  8. JW, that is the raving misogyny of a guy who *has* no intellect. The raving misogyny of guys *with* intellect goes by names such as religion, art, science, literature, etc.

    Posted by Branjor | August 4, 2007, 6:13 pm
  9. Heart you have to post the WHOLE full header string for us. If he’s using a public computer, the full headers will give enough information for the business to know what time, and who was logged into the terminal at that time.

    And anyway, I’d like more than the ISP for my complaint. I consider myself an investor in the Margins Forum.

    Bring it.

    Posted by Sis | August 4, 2007, 6:33 pm
  10. Oh…..but porn is so harmless…..says the yay porn people!

    I think he just wants to get thrown in jail so a man can rape him and then he can pretend like he is the victim.

    Posted by Kitty Glendower | August 4, 2007, 6:37 pm
  11. The raving misogyny of guys *with* intellect goes by names such as religion, art, science, literature, etc.

    HA!! Nice one, Branjor. :)

    Posted by womensspace | August 4, 2007, 6:48 pm
  12. Sis, that was commented here to my blog, as opposed to sent via e-mail, so that’s all the info I have.

    Re what we can do more than complaining. We will have to work on that.

    Here’s the thing about these other options (and I have heard from a few Margins women already about this, worried, concerned). I was going to wait for the private forums to discuss this, but maybe it’s good to just say this here.

    Yes, we can file a complaint with the FBI, or for that matter, the police, in the case of death threats, and at the end of the day, maybe that’s what we’ll decided to do. The problem is that means that those of us who are radical feminists and political activists have to give our own confidential, personal information to the FBI and other government authorities. Because of the way the U.S. justice system works, the perps will also be entitled to view a lot of our private, personal information. Everything that is produced in the course of an investigation or lawsuit in the United States, unless a judge orders it kept “under seal” — very rare, almost never happens — becomes public record sooner or later, available to anybody who wants to take a look. At the most, all anybody has to do is make a request under the Freedom of Information Act and whatever public agency is the custodian of the records has to hand it over (although there is a charge for it which can be hefty depending). Court records are always public records. Even if, say, we filed a complaint and it was prosecuted and someone went to jail (probably for some minuscule amount of time), who wants all that information floating around amongst these guys’ buddies?

    We might want to explore some other options for this reason and that’s what I was thinking would be good to talk about in the private forum. I think we do have some options, I have some ideas, but I will want to discuss them with the women here and then also with my attorney friends, see what their thoughts are.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 4, 2007, 7:03 pm
  13. And of course, who of us, as female persons, trusts the police? Or FBI agents? Not me. Never have, never will. Some of the guys who did this might have been policemen!

    Not to mention, if we get these guys, well, we just got them and only for a hot minute. There’s a lot more where those guys came from. So we have to go deeper, go to the roots, you know? These guys do what they do because their ISPs allow them to because our laws allow them to because businesses make money allowing them to because most of the people with power in this culture aren’t harmed by them and don’t particularly care about those who are harmed — us. I think we have to do some considering from this particular angle.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 4, 2007, 7:43 pm
  14. Rape and femicide are products. They generate tens (or maybe hundreds) of billion $$$ a year in sales. What are the odds that the menz are going to throw a spanner into that works?

    Mary

    Posted by Mary Sunshine | August 4, 2007, 8:04 pm
  15. The odds suck. But civil, as opposed to criminal, lawsuits can be good things. They can generate a lot of attention and publicity, they can result in sometimes favorable-to-women legislation, they can result in monetary judgments which can be used to help female persons.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 4, 2007, 8:14 pm
  16. Ah! :-)

    Yes, like the OJ Simpson thing.

    Posted by Mary Sunshine | August 4, 2007, 8:29 pm
  17. seems like a truly depraved individual

    Posted by tara | August 4, 2007, 9:46 pm
  18. Heart, I hope the ideas you have play out well. This fine exemplar of the Culture of Life should spend as much of the rest of his behind bars as possible. As well as be outed to his friends, neighbors and employers, if any.

    And, yes, the ISP should be required to turn over information to you in a case like this. I mean, the DMCA already requires them to take down material on a claim of IP violation. Oh, silly me, I forgot. That’s corporate property, and here we have only a threat against barely-post-chattel. ;-/

    Posted by Mike | August 4, 2007, 10:11 pm
  19. That threat is almost identical to the ones Kathy Sierra got just before she stopped blogging. These men are so stunted they resort to copying each other.

    I’m very sorry about what’s happening here and on your board. I hope you, and all who’ve been affected, can take action and win.

    Posted by Gayle | August 4, 2007, 11:51 pm
  20. Yeah Branjor, that was quite good!

    Posted by Gayle | August 4, 2007, 11:53 pm
  21. Hi Heart! I’ve only recently discovered your blog through the course of learning more about radical feminism, and I’m so sorry (but sadly unsurprised) to hear that you’ve been treated like this.

    Actually, I came here via a link to your post on the homeschool/Quiverfull movement. I found it very informative and refreshing, esp. since I recently read a rather revolting post on some other blog that was full of wishy-washy gushing about how being Quiverfull was a CHOICE that we had to OMG respect despite the fact that Jim Bob Duggar is only sending his boys and not his girls to college and raising his girls to be puppets and slaves without any power of making their own choices. (Tolerate, yes, and sympathize with rather than blame the women–but I could never respect it).

    Anyway, sorry to hear about this and I hope you don’t let it discourage you.

    Posted by With a twist | August 5, 2007, 4:26 am
  22. Hey Heart, I know, I know, im a guy *puts flame-shield up*

    but hear me out. I am very sorry for all the ignorant assholes(pardon my french) that are sexist, racist biggots and that are victimizing women and children around the globe. I do not agree with this one bit, and I am all for you! But at the same time I want to let you know that not all men are like this, and it is just the ones like this that get the press, while us nice guys take all the rep for it :( and thats not right, so I just wanted to stop by and leave a note!

    -spencer

    Posted by spencer | August 5, 2007, 4:35 am
  23. Some of this discussion about exposure really concerns me personally, as a witness who has gone to extreme lengths to be hard to find. However, there is another witness I know willing to testify about what was done to Margins. The perps may deserve the book, but hopefully something that can be done that does not involve so much invasion of our privacy. The screen shot I got should be good evidence, but I really do not wish to appear in court or otherwise be forced to disclose who I am.

    My blog gets lots of porn spam, but nothing like that. No threats, so far. Mostly long lists of links, occasionally some verbiage. I am outraged, but not surprised, by this barrage of blatantly vicious hate mail.

    Branjor, I liked your quip as well, also that other idea you had in response to the strategy announcement. I have to think about how to answer your comment on my blog. These hackers and fearmongers have no code of honor regarding women, worse examples of man than the devil.

    Posted by Aletha | August 5, 2007, 6:40 am
  24. And where’s your LJ so I can add you to the blogroll?! If you want, of course.

    You can if you want, but it’s mostly random stuff that’s going on in my life, and not overtly feminist, unless some news bit strikes me. TV, knitting, and workplace annoyances are most of the topics.

    link

    Posted by Miranda | August 5, 2007, 11:36 am
  25. Spencer,

    What are you doing to make sure this never happens again?

    Posted by Mary Sunshine | August 5, 2007, 11:49 am
  26. Mary – that was the very question that I wanted to ask Spencer when I scrolled down to find you’d beaten me to it!

    After all, if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

    Posted by witchy-woo | August 5, 2007, 1:19 pm
  27. Wish I could say that was original. You should post the other ones, Heart, so they know how unoriginal, and ultimately unimportant they are.

    Posted by Kiuku | August 5, 2007, 3:03 pm
  28. Spencer,

    Thanks for the apology. As feminists, and radical feminists, though I do not speak for any or all other radical feminists, we realize that ALL men benefit from male terrorism of women.

    So I would want to know how you reject benefiting from male terrorism of women. Do you encourage women to take back space from men or do you discourage women from true self-realization and peace because of other male terrorists? Do you think women need “good” men to protect them from the “bad” men and do “bad” men define your status with women as a “good” man? Do you consume porn? What do you do to end male terrorism of women?

    Posted by Kiuku | August 5, 2007, 3:07 pm
  29. Odanu, check your e-mail, thanks.

    Posted by womensspace | August 5, 2007, 4:00 pm
  30. I’ve just caught up on this whole situation, it’s so awful. I’m sorry they are doing this to you, and to so many good wimmin.

    I’m so angry, and I really feel for you.

    hippie x

    Posted by hippie | August 5, 2007, 5:50 pm
  31. Thanks, hippie.

    xxxooo

    Posted by womensspace | August 5, 2007, 6:19 pm
  32. Good God(dess). You know – I don’t trust the police either, generally speaking, but they do have some actual training in these matters, which many other authorities do not. I had this long cyberstalking saga at work and the only people who made any sense talking about it were 2 sets of police (because it was in 2 jurisdictions). They said:

    “This is not a ‘problematic communication’, it is a crime scene, and we do not wish to disempower you by saying this, but you are not complicit in it, you are the victim.”

    Posted by profacero | August 5, 2007, 6:19 pm
  33. Spencer: “…while us nice guys take all the rep for it…”

    I do not think this is true. Most typically perps are described as unusual monsters, anomalies. It is assumed that “nice guys” are the norm. But I have to assume that men who try to bring a discussion like this one around to focus on the topic of how they are “nice guys,” are not actually very feminist or very “nice.”

    Posted by profacero | August 5, 2007, 6:25 pm
  34. I posted the comment and my opinion on it, and promptly recieved porn/threatening comments from anonymous cowards. I deleted them from the journal, but they’re in my email alerts, so there’s a record.

    I’ve disabled anonymous commenting and will be screening for awhile.

    Heart, if you’re gathering evidence for an action and need anymore, I have quite the supply of badly written porn.

    Posted by Miranda | August 5, 2007, 6:47 pm
  35. Inspector Profacero, can I get a red herring. LOL!

    I think “nice guy” is the new buzz phrase for major red flag.

    “I’m a nice guy, I won’t hurt you.”

    “I’m a bad guy, I won’t hurt you.”

    Which one is more comforting?

    Posted by Kitty Glendower | August 5, 2007, 6:48 pm
  36. Hi Prof

    Oh the ways I can use this.

    “This is not a ‘problematic communication’, it is a crime scene, and we do not wish to disempower you by saying this, but you are not complicit in it, you are the victim.”

    Posted by Sis | August 5, 2007, 6:59 pm
  37. Dear Spencer/Nigel,

    Yes I know that some men are nice, but so what? What good does that do me, or all the women who are victimized simply because we are female?

    Seriously, what difference does it make?

    Nigel acts like I’m supposed to ignore all the rapes, all the sexist double-standards, all the misogyny, just because he says he personally is sorry???

    We’re supposed to grow up in a culture which sexualizes women at every turn just because Nigel likes (or at least doesn’t object to) teh sexy advertising, yet somehow we’re at fault for growing neurotic over the constant objectification?

    Feminist Lite teaches our daughters how to pander to the patriarchy, because *that’s what gets Nigel’s approval* but somehow they’re wrong for competing with each other for his approval, *in the way that he rewards*?

    We’re supposed to trust random strange men just because they *might* be nice, but somehow it’s still *our* fault that we didn’t take extreme precautions when they do something bad to us?

    It’s obviously hard for me to articulate, but the Nigels of this world deeply, profoundly, offend me — for a variety of reasons — with their convoluted hidden assumptions. Nigel believes, at some level, that *his* feelings are more important than *our* safety. His need for respect is paramount, even at the cost of our autonomy. Most of all, Nigel resents being assumed to be a misogynistic jerk unless proven otherwise, and could the crazy womyn “just lighten up!?” After all, “not all men are like that!”

    Again: what difference does it make that some men are nice? Who benefits by acting as if Nigel is the majority of men, and who benefits by pretending the damage done by a “small” minority is irrelevant?

    Nigel is a pawn of the patriarchy. Literally. He gets sacrificed as a distraction technique so the king can checkmate the queen.

    Posted by mAndrea | August 5, 2007, 7:00 pm
  38. Nigel?

    Posted by Rich | August 5, 2007, 8:00 pm
  39. Spencer, who gives a shit about the Nice Guys of the world? If you were really that damned nice you wouldn’t throw yourslef into a conversation about a death threat by whining that ‘not all men are like that.’ Why is defending men your first thought? Your defense of women is just a lead in to defending men. Your disgust at the guy threatening Hearrt is pallid. Try harder, boyo. We might believe you then. And stop defending men. They don’t need it. We need defenses against them—and against you.

    Posted by ginmar | August 5, 2007, 8:19 pm
  40. I’m sorry, Heart, that you recieve these comments/emails. I will keep you in my thoughts and hope you will not revert to silence. May I offer my support? Whatever I can do!

    Paula.

    Posted by Jokerine | August 5, 2007, 8:41 pm
  41. It’s nice to know that you don’t support these mysoginists, Spencer, but frankly your sentiment is pretty hollow. I pretty much have to agree with everyone else here: why are you defending men? Why aren’t you working to end mysoginy? If you really are a “nice guy” you wouldn’t go around saying it, you’d go around proving it.

    But at the same time I want to let you know that not all men are like this

    You think we don’t know this? If we thought all men were violent women-hating assholes we’d have all of us packed up and vanished into the wilderness away from men long ago.

    Posted by Chloe | August 5, 2007, 9:22 pm
  42. Thanks, women and Rich, much appreciated.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 5, 2007, 10:06 pm
  43. Heart, I’m so sorry. This horrified me.

    I applaud your courage in publishing it. Only by bringing such misogynist depravity into the open can we take steps towards eliminating it.

    What I was wondering is if there is any sort of WordPress plugin that can identify the ISPs of commenters. If so, that could be very useful.

    Posted by Bonnie | August 5, 2007, 10:55 pm
  44. Thanks, Christian Feminist. ISPs can be identified, but a lot of the time these guys use proxies. But, sometimes they don’t, too.

    More, in the interests of documenting what is happening here. The first three were attempts to comment here, the last one was an e-mail to me:

    dick | fucking@your.house | google.com | IP: 83.253.153.159

    i wanna fuck you all

    Not Spam — Aug 5, 4:01 PM — [ View Post ]

    Your Father. | Fatha@slaskpost.se | ebaumsworld.com | IP: 85.11.14.127

    “we realize that ALL men benefit from male terrorism of women.”

    What the fuck are you on?

    I don’t benefit in any manner. It gives whores like you the excuse to whine and pollute my beautiful internet trucks, I mean tubes.

    I daily recieve headaches from selfrighteous rejects like yourself. I’ve had enough… now I seek you out. I rape you through the eye socket. You want to feel put down? You wanna be discriminated? I’ll give you something to complain about.

    Not Spam — Aug 5, 7:16 PM — [ View Post ]

    RapistsRule69 | hassamu17@yahoo.com | IP: 71.79.43.202

    You’re a bunch of stupid whores.

    Not Spam — Aug 5, 6:46 PM — [ View Post ]

    Shaun Barratt to me
    show details Aug 4 (16 hours ago)

    I’m gonna stick my dick in you! WITHOUT GETTING YOUR CONSENT FIRST! TAKE THAT BITCH!

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 5, 2007, 11:13 pm
  45. Is there any other way to catch them if they use proxies?

    “I don’t benefit in any manner”

    Yeah, sure asshole. . then you go right ahead and contribute to the masses of verbal male terrorism.

    They keep posting this shit thinking it will shock and horrify us into silence. . bah. .the least they could do is fill their stupid little messages with typos, netspeak and “!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111″s and then at least it’d be amusing. .*eyeroll*

    Posted by Chloe | August 5, 2007, 11:35 pm
  46. Pathetic little slimeballs. If they’re such fine upstanding young men they’d be in the Army and I’d be kicking their asses. Of course, the pathetic little assholes that killed that girl in Mahmoudiya were the same type of jerkoffs. Stupid, socially backward, filled with impotent rage at not being able to control women—-this is as close as they get to real life.

    What losers. Future MRAs, the lot of them, assuming they can even get a woman to fuck them.

    Posted by ginmar | August 5, 2007, 11:53 pm
  47. oh god. That’s vile.

    And way to prove the entire point of the original post! Nah these fuckwads don’t hate women. Not at all. They’re just… um… trying to get attention, or something.

    Fuck off and die, misogynist scum.

    Sorry, Heart, please do delete this if I’m being too sweary. I am just so angry right now. I hate cowards more than anything, and there is nothing more cowardly than a man sending hatemail and rape threats to a woman.

    Posted by Laurelin | August 6, 2007, 12:07 am
  48. “we realize that ALL men benefit from male terrorism of women.”

    What the fuck are you on?

    I don’t benefit in any manner. It gives whores like you the excuse to whine and pollute my beautiful internet trucks, I mean tubes.

    I daily recieve headaches from selfrighteous rejects like yourself. I’ve had enough… now I seek you out. I rape you through the eye socket. You want to feel put down? You wanna be discriminated? I’ll give you something to complain about.”

    That you Spencer?

    Posted by Kiuku | August 6, 2007, 12:19 am
  49. Is there any other way to catch them if they use proxies?

    Yes.

    You know, my oldest son, who is 35, called me from Las Vegas this past Friday night to chat. Guess where he was. The Hackers Convention. Heh. Wry heh. Where are they when you need them the most? One of the things he does for a living is, he helps companies protect e-mail and other kinds of security. I didn’t even know that was a central focus of his work. So I’m about to learn all about this stuff. For those of you reading from my old world, you know the way we unschoolers are, we learn everything by doing. ;)

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 6, 2007, 12:31 am
  50. Yep, Hearrt’s been sent death and rape threats, much the same way that just about all feminist bloggers are threatened with rape and murder, sometimes on a daily basis…but let’s ignore that and concentrate on sparing Spencer’s widdle feelings.

    This should be filed in the Feminism 101 files under Male Privilege, Definitions of.

    Posted by Flewellyn | August 6, 2007, 3:37 am
  51. I’ve been thinking about the need to create a support system for this type of harassment. My idea was to create a space to “call out” the hate speech for what it is and to organize support of bloggers and other web activists for what they do. I wonder if that’s a good idea…

    Anyway, regardless of whether my idea comes to fruition or not, you have my support. Keep up the blogging and don’t let the haters get you down.

    Posted by Elaine Vigneault | August 6, 2007, 3:44 am
  52. Heart, I inherited a couple of your jackasses: two of them apparently followed me from here back to my place.

    As I said I would, I dragged their vileness into the full light of the day for all to see. I really think that’s the only way to combat something like this.

    Posted by Bonnie | August 6, 2007, 4:06 am
  53. Heart, with your permission, I’d like to blog about the antics of these cowardly assholes. I’m curious if they have the nerve to tangle with me. Somehow I doubt it, but if they want war, they can come on over to my blog to fight with me. My blog is almost unmoderated.

    I don’t know if this is a stupid idea, but I’d like a chance to dissect their motivations, and give them a piece of my mind.

    Posted by Angry Scientist | August 6, 2007, 8:19 am
  54. Hmm – well that didn’t work very well!

    Trying again…

    Rich said:

    Nigel?

    See here
    See here.

    Posted by Spicy | August 6, 2007, 10:21 am
  55. Looks like it’s my turn now as well. I’ve just got four messages from these rapists, including a piece of written child porn.

    Does anyone know how I could report these guys? I’ve kept the comments for the time being. Usually I’d post them up to show people, but the child porn one is too vile.

    Geez, I feel sick.

    Posted by Laurelin | August 6, 2007, 12:28 pm
  56. Oh, that’s sick!

    Peace,

    ~Chani

    Posted by thailandchani | August 6, 2007, 1:48 pm
  57. It seems, to me, that these men are, more than anything, trying to convince themselves of their invincibility. They need to hate women in order to exist and having their threats taken seriously is important to them because it fuels their delusions.

    I reckon it’d be good to keep a communal record of their comments for future reference and because the fact that all their comments are so similar says says something about the collective mentality of men.

    Posted by Arantxa | August 6, 2007, 2:42 pm
  58. That’s an insult to jackasses, Bonnie, wihch serve some purpose in life. These losers just protest too much, which I suspect occupies the bulk of their time. They’re not men; they’re not boys. They’re just losers.

    Posted by ginmar | August 6, 2007, 3:13 pm
  59. I don’t know if ginger miss knows but there’s trolls posting paedophiliac stories along side the usual hate speech on her blog.

    Posted by sparklematrix | August 6, 2007, 3:49 pm
  60. There’s a guy who has attempted to comment twice now. I’ll excerpt. But this is what takes the cake for me:

    notrunningscared | rchif0@gmail.com | Iamnotgoingtosubjectmywebsitetomorewhining. | IP: 12.207.19.185

    Well my post has already been censored twice. Coming from a male, no surprise. Coming from a male that works at a women’s shelter, a little bit of a surprise. Simply censoring that which you disagree with doesn’t accomplish anything but what you claim men do to you.

    Aug 6, 3:45 PM — [ Edit | Delete ] — View post “Blogging While Female — Warning, May Trigger”

    Bulk action: Approve Spam Delete No action

    Would any of you women like to go to, or send any woman to, any women’s shelter staffed by men, number one, but beyond that, by men who write stuff like this? The guy doesn’t know much about much so far as women are concerned, but it’s pretty bad that if, in fact, he works at a shelter, has no idea radical feminists are responsible for the DV shelter movement. He also appears to be far more a men’s rights type than any sort of friend to women.

    Anyway, this is exhibit A of where things stand at the moment, for women. Men have co-opted our movement, our spaces, have silenced us and continue to attempt to speak for us. In some arenas, we have to start all over.

    notrunningscared | rchif0@gmail.com | Iamnotgoingtosubjectmywebsitetomorewhining. | IP: 12.207.19.185

    You ever seen the South Park episode with the hippies? It comes down to the hippies whining. And that’s about it. I hope you people do more than comment on an internet blog. What’s Spencer doing to make sure it doesn’t happen? What are YOU doing?

    A male gets on here to support you, and immediately is irrationally attacked. Do you not wonder why you are shunned by both males and females alike? Attacking in kind is not the way to make a difference, and if you had the “intellect” you claimed to have, you should know that by now.

    “After all, if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.” What sort of backwards nonsense is this? It’s not black and white. There is no ultimatum that says you have to pick black or white, or you aren’t helping. That’s an over-cliche’d and ignorant viewpoint. Are you saying that someone who doesn’t discriminate according to sex or gender, has never done anything negative towards females, and does everything expected of a good husband in a good relationship, is just as bad as a rapist? That reeks of stupidity. Was Switzerland supporting Nazi Germany because they didn’t go to war with them? Uh, no.

    And yes, currently, all men may benefit from “male terrorism” (By the way, what dramatic attention grubber came up with such a goofy term?). However, that’s like saying because someone is caucasian in a caucasian-dominated society, it’s their fault. What kind of sense does that make?

    “Do you encourage women to take back space from men or do you discourage women from true self-realization and peace because of other male terrorists?” What does this even mean? Why does it have to be one or the other? Is a male supposed to have to usher a woman out the door and make sure she goes and protests or begs for a raise (Which, in a recent study, a big reason for women being paid less is that they’re too timid to ask for said raise) or else he is evil? Why do you need permission to reach self-realization from men? You should be able to do that yourself, without your oh-so-stringent restraints. If a slave can reach self-enlightenment, please tell me you don’t need a pat on the back to do the same yourself. Blaming that you’re too pathetic to take care of yourself on society is a cop-out.

    You can’t help but try to turn a conversation around on a person who’s trying to support you. Woe is that person for being a male. Oh no, he must be evil. Attack like a rabid dog. Good job. Instead of trying to twist things into an insult by picking apart various words and automatically assuming the worst of meanings, why not accept what support you can get from those that you’re trying to convert? Why would a male EVER even consider putting up with the self-proclaimed freedom fighter of stamped-out feminine rights, when if he says one single wrong word he is butchered? Woe is that male for ever attempting to feel any sympathy for drama-hungry whining.

    You people are arrogant enough that you assume someone will cater to your insecurities simply because they are male, and if they don’t say everything absolutely correctly (Apparently saying you’re a nice guy is paramount to defining yourself as a big floppy wanker) then you pounce. It makes a big difference that men are nice. How are you incapable of seeing that? By making sure that you alienate every single male, I can guarantee that you’ll never get your way, and will always be seen as whiney wenches. Do you know how much more powerful it is to garner the support of what you’re trying to attack? You think a man is going to listen to a woman say that she is bereaved and “held down by the man,” and care as much if a MALE can recognize and communicate what is happening? By not taking part in sexist/gender-discriminatory ways, that makes a huge difference. That means that a male is aware of what is going on, instead of ignoring it. So quit babbling about males ignoring the problem. If a male mentions the problem, guess what, HE ISN’T IGNORING IT. But if his support continues to be abashed, then yes, he will ignore it, and I would not blame him. Who wants to help when he is constantly snapped at? But fine, consider your support irrelevant.

    “We need defenses against them—and against you.” Hahahaha.. oh my. Translated to “We need defenses against our enemies AND our supporters!” I am so glad you people do not run any sort of national defense organization, because even as corrupt as those usually are, they’re not this naive. A man tries to offer support, and it is assumed he wants to defend men. If I said every woman was a cheating and promiscuous skank, I would be crucified here. That goes without saying. Lesson being: Quit pigeon-holing. You complain about the same thing happening to you.

    You’re not going to win any sort of battle or war with the type of hypocrisy that you express. People look down on radical feminism in general. There’s a good reason for that – you shun support except from your own stereotype, and you actually think that like can defeat like. How is being bigoted going to stop bigotry? It won’t, and you should know that if you were as cultured as you’d like to believe. It’s a sad world when someone is adamant about fighting a battle, but then not fighting it properly and failing to realize that, whilst blaming others for your own failures.

    I already tried posting this twice, and it wasn’t accepted via moderation. That’s impressive. You whine about needing “intellectual” responses, and you refuse one from an intellectual just because it doesn’t agree with you. Look at that! More hypocrisy! You go girl.

    Aug 6, 3:45 PM — [ Edit | Delete ] — View post “Blogging While Female — Warning, May Trigger”

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    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 6, 2007, 3:58 pm
  61. Hey, Angry Scientist, be my guest, but definitely moderate. Even if you’re willing to engage whatever arguments some of these guys do make, you’re going to get plenty of rape stories, incest stories, and harrassment-type spam. Take a look at Ginger Miss’s blog for an example.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 6, 2007, 4:04 pm
  62. No surprises that all the irrational vicious nutters are crawling out of the woodwork. We can only hope that that guy claiming to work at a women’s shelter is lying, Heart. It’s not as if these assholes bother to distinguish between truth and fiction when they are attempting to give themselves credibilty.

    What are they expecting? That you will shut up and agree with them? That the rest of us will shut up and agree with them? They’re the ones who have to resort to posting child porn to get their points across. Do none of them ever take a step back and consider how they are behaving?

    Posted by delphyne | August 6, 2007, 4:19 pm
  63. When I read WordPress’ Terms Of Service I got the impression that it’s the person who’s blog it is that is responsible for it’s content. If this is not a misunderstanding on my part then not moderating comments seems like a bad idea where content that is deemed criminal is concerned.

    Posted by Arantxa | August 6, 2007, 4:33 pm
  64. I have entirely given up on the notion that men will truly understand the experiences of women. While it may be a nice gesture for Spencer, Nigel, Whomever, to apologize on the behalf of men, it doesn’t begin to scratch the surface of our experience.

    And unfortunately, trying to explain it would be like trying to play the violin for a water buffalo.

    (Before anyone gets insulted, that is a common Thai proverb.)

    Peace,

    ~Chani

    Posted by thailandchani | August 6, 2007, 4:36 pm
  65. Wow Heart. I’m so glad that you don’t post that crap, because otherwise I’d feel obligated to respond to it.

    The scary part is, definitely, that these men have access to women, especially shelters. No I would not want to go to a shelter where there are men, no matter how feminist they claim to be, or “nice” they claim to be.

    The scary part is, not the threats, but that all of these men have access to women. They may have a daughter, a girlfriend, or a wife.

    Posted by Kiuku | August 6, 2007, 4:36 pm
  66. As far as I know, this is a blog about how men terrorize women and Heart calling them out. All the posts, or attempted posts from the men have been about themselves, men, their reputation, and how they don’t want to be seen.

    Posted by Kiuku | August 6, 2007, 4:41 pm
  67. Oh and I forgot, how it’s your fault that you are hated..because you don’t accept the “nice” man when he comes along.

    Posted by Kiuku | August 6, 2007, 4:44 pm
  68. Heart I am glad that you moderate this post. You can go anywhere to get these “arguments” and be subjected to the way men think. It’s nothing new. Being able to talk amongst women without it, is.

    Posted by Kiuku | August 6, 2007, 4:57 pm
  69. I just read his “argument” in it’s entirety. I won’t respond to it, save for being very concerned that he claims to work in a woman’s shelter. His reasoning falls just sly of “Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus” and his need or desire to blame women are very concerning.

    Here are some pretty concering quotes, I mean, so far as you can’t just post the whole thing:

    “It makes a big difference that men are nice”

    “So quit babbling about males ignoring the problem.”

    “By making sure that you alienate every single male, I can guarantee that you’ll never get your way, and will always be seen as whiney wenches”

    “Are you saying that someone who doesn’t discriminate according to sex or gender, has never done anything negative towards females, and does everything expected of a good husband in a good relationship, is just as bad as a rapist? That reeks of stupidity. Was Switzerland supporting Nazi Germany because they didn’t go to war with them?”

    ““male terrorism” (By the way, what dramatic attention grubber came up with such a goofy term?). ”

    “if his support continues to be abashed, then yes, he will ignore it, and I would not blame him”

    “Who wants to help when he is constantly snapped at?”

    “Woe is that male for ever attempting to feel any sympathy for drama-hungry whining.”

    I don’t think he should be anywhere near a shelter.

    Posted by Kiuku | August 6, 2007, 5:22 pm
  70. since when did men work in women’s shelters?!

    Hmmm…. could that by any chance be… bullshit?

    Answers on a postcard to…

    Posted by Laurelin | August 6, 2007, 5:29 pm
  71. rchif0 rather misses the point of WOMEN ONLY, doesn’t he.

    Posted by thebewilderness | August 6, 2007, 5:36 pm
  72. I do have to admit to being somewhat tickled by a person who says : You whine about needing “intellectual” responses, and you refuse one from an intellectual…

    Clearly, it is the cruelest of censorship when you won’t let him scribble in your book.

    Posted by thebewilderness | August 6, 2007, 6:45 pm
  73. I emailed her and have not heard back, either she is at work, not home, or locked out of her computer. I am waiting to hear back……..

    Posted by Kitty Glendower | August 6, 2007, 7:33 pm
  74. I should mention that I am referring to one of my blog partners, Gingermiss….

    Posted by Kitty Glendower | August 6, 2007, 7:33 pm
  75. I wonder if everyone should implement a buddy system and exchange passwords, assess to each other’s blog to remove crap when the other is not available to do so. Someone each woman can trust.

    Posted by Kitty Glendower | August 6, 2007, 7:40 pm
  76. Eh, I bet he doesn’t even work at a women’s shelter. He’s just saying that because he thinks it’ll make us feel bad or take his whining seriously or something. (Hell, if he did work at a shelter, or have any kind of job, he probably wouldn’t have the time to sit there and comment repeatedly to a blog that he obviously hates.)

    And Heart, may what these monsters wish on you come back to them twentyfold.

    Posted by mekhit | August 6, 2007, 7:55 pm
  77. Well, they were successful.

    My site’s down. Harbornet had to remove it because there was too much traffic. They are investigating it.

    Is this the kind of country you women, or you men, want to live in?

    Is this the kind of world any of us wants?

    Where thugs and terrorists determine what a woman is allowed to publish? Where it’s acceptable to post violent rape and murder threats on the internet? Where entire sites are created for the purpose of terrorizing individual women?

    If you don’t want this kind of world, then build a new one with me. Women, you have to rise up. You just have to.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 6, 2007, 8:07 pm
  78. To the person who commented with the first letter of your screenname “O”. If you want to e-mail me, it’s fine. If not, that’s fine, too. Time was of the essence yesterday. It all kind of seems moot at the moment.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 6, 2007, 8:39 pm
  79. Is there a chance you will get it back after they’re done investigating? How can we help? :(

    Posted by Chloe | August 6, 2007, 8:54 pm
  80. geez-e-petes-

    Flashback…

    Scene:
    A recent graduate level domestic violence class, class of 10 comprised of 6 females and 4 males.

    Each week we received numerous journal articles/ book chapters to analysis and discuss in the following weeks class. One particular week, six various articles/ chapters from leading theorists on the subject were on the table for discussion. In 5 of the readings, the theorists used the term “patriarchal terrorism” to describe the violence women experience both individually and collectively through society. The last theorist used the term “male domination” both in a societal context and with individual case studies.

    During the discussion, the males in the class voiced “discomfort” in the use of the word patriarchal terrorism when discussing the conceptual analysis of domestic violence. Their main objection was in classifying all males as potentially violent toward women. Although through numerous readings over the semester, it was crystal clear that males are responsible for a vast majority of any violence experienced by women. Furthermore, women with male partners have a higher incidence of experiencing violence.

    They never did come to understand the negative impact male terrorism imparts on women, not only in this culture but globally. Scarier was that contrary to every legitimate therapeutic intervention for victims of domestic violence, two of these numb-nuts advocated couples therapy as the best option, not only for the woman but to “keep the family together.” Statistically it is known that the potential for violence dramatically increases when the woman seeks any time of help in escaping the violence. Also all respected and creditable researchers in this area state unequivocally never to attempt couples therapy.

    So heart, answer to your question.. NO, I would not want a male working in a domestic violence shelter. I’ll take it a step further; I would advise any woman seeking therapy to AVOID a male therapist. The insidious nature of their sexist and misogynistic nature has been displayed to me first hand, time and time again.

    Admittedly, when I first read Mary Daly’s use of the term “the-rapist,” for therapists, it created some dissonance. Yet as I view the field as a whole, I agree with her dissection of the word; especially with my heightened understanding of how those males in the field view women and the limited understanding they have of our experiences. Because really what is a male’s understanding of females? Their concept of females is solely based on how best a woman or the tribe of women can be utilized to their advantage. Whether it’s “quit whining or keep the family together,” the experiences of women are silenced, dismissed and erased. When males provide therapeutic intervention for women, the rape may not by physical, but be assured it is psychological and disempowering.

    Posted by Maggie | August 6, 2007, 9:15 pm
  81. The pedophile site so recently in the news (shrug) is still there; the sites where women are bound, raped and then beaten because they didn’t smile enough while, are still there; the sites where men pay to jerk off while women are razored and tortured are still there; Barry Deutsch’s Alas a Blog with its cornucopia of links to Asian girls, Black girls and barely teen girls prostituting themselves so pimp Deutsch doesn’t have practice restraint, of any kind; still there.

    Posted by Sis | August 6, 2007, 9:34 pm
  82. http://www.awakenedwoman.com/charkowski_terrorists.htm

    Terrorism is the correct word for what males do to women.

    Posted by Kitty Glendower | August 6, 2007, 10:13 pm
  83. Also still there, the self-congratulatory so-called radical feminists at I Blame the Patriarchy forum, tilting at windmills. Any chance of a shout out for solidarity against something real, IBTPF sisters?

    Posted by Sis | August 6, 2007, 10:21 pm
  84. Thanks Rick. I hope you can separate.

    Posted by Sis | August 6, 2007, 10:27 pm
  85. I wonder why they aren’t considering it might be them next? Now they’re on the radar. How is it that people are so incredibly short sighted?

    Posted by womensspace | August 6, 2007, 10:32 pm
  86. Also still there, the self-congratulatory so-called radical feminists at I Blame the Patriarchy forum, tilting at windmills. Any chance of a shout out for solidarity against something real, IBTPF sisters?

    check your iphone for that shout out.

    Posted by Kitty Glendower | August 6, 2007, 10:37 pm
  87. They’ve already been attacked. The moderators said they had spent a lot of time a couple of weeks ago fighting off troll attacks so it’s quite possible that the trolls came from over there to here because of links one of their moderators posted.

    But yeah, it would be nice to hear a little support rather than seeing the postmodernism = radical feminism or ‘rad fems want me to kill my son’ nonsense.

    Posted by delphyne | August 6, 2007, 10:45 pm
  88. I don’t know if ginger miss knows but there’s trolls posting paedophiliac stories along side the usual hate speech on her blog.

    I do now. :(

    It was pretty thoughtless of me to link to the post directly, I suppose. I guess it just didn’t occur to me that these psychopaths would target everyone and anyone they could get their hands on.

    Posted by gingermiss | August 6, 2007, 10:56 pm
  89. So heart, answer to your question.. NO, I would not want a male working in a domestic violence shelter. I’ll take it a step further; I would advise any woman seeking therapy to AVOID a male therapist.

    I would hope that any man with enough real insight into domestic violence would understand why he shouldn’t be volunteering at a domestic violence shelter. How unbelievably inappropriate.

    Posted by gingermiss | August 6, 2007, 10:59 pm
  90. Gingermiss don’t delete anything on your blog. You’ll need it.

    Posted by Sis | August 6, 2007, 11:10 pm
  91. Gingermiss don’t delete anything on your blog. You’ll need it.

    I haven’t deleted the majority of them. I may have deleted a few, I can’t remember… but I’m not really sure what to do with them either.

    Posted by gingermiss | August 6, 2007, 11:36 pm
  92. Gingermiss: You can save snapshots of your page.

    If you are using Internet explorer go to file->save as
    If you are using firefox right click on an empty space of the page and select “Save Page As…”

    Either way I recommend that you change the name of the snapshot to indicate the date which it was taken and save only the html, you don’t need all the images. If the Ip’s and other information is visible in that snapshot, even better.

    I hope that you let this through Heart, I am truly sorry that you are under this onslaught. I may not agree with you 100% but I stand in solidarity with you against the idiots that are doing this.

    Posted by Erin | August 7, 2007, 12:43 am
  93. It only takes a couple terrorists to terrorize America.

    If you are afraid to get on a plane, a bus, or a subway, because someone might have a bomb: that is terrorism.

    If you are afraid to go out at night, to enjoy a hike, to jog because of men who attack women: that’s terrorism.

    If you cannot walk down the street without getting harassed by men: that’s terrorism.

    If you do not take a job or discontinue a pursuit, because of harassment from men because you are a woman: that’s terrorism.

    No Heart, I don’t want to live in a country where terrorism is acceptable.

    Posted by Kiuku | August 7, 2007, 5:00 pm
  94. Crimes against women by men need to be defined, redefined as what they are: hate crimes. And it HAS to stop. But Heart, yes, the only way it is going to stop is if we women rise up and stop it. I’m glad that you do not waste any bandwidth here defending men, or comforting men, because it’s not about making them feel secure and ok about themselves. It is true that the raped woman often ends up having to comfort her male friends and male family members, assauge their egos, their reputations, and pander to their feelings of anger and rage and retribution.

    The minorizing of the rapist came about through Psychology’s well-meaned attempt to end rape culture. While it is comforting to men to believe that only a minority of male “sociopaths” commit rapes, the statistics of women who are raped or who suffer violence speak otherwise, and we are not here to comfort men. Meanwhile, it only serves to justify Patriarchy: women need good men.

    But women don’t need good men. Women need women. Women need community and actual good men will realize THAT and will support THAT. We never got progress by appealing to men, by pandering to Patriarchy, catering to their egos, by being “good wives” and “good women” and it won’t start now.

    Posted by Kiuku | August 7, 2007, 5:11 pm
  95. So Heart please continue to put the hate and the misogyny out in the open for all to see. You can only believe misogynist beliefs, Patriarchy’s terrorism and violence against women are individual, original, or uncommon occurances when they happen behind closed doors, in private.

    Seriously there is nothing new about a man wanting to “make a hole in you” and “rape” you or kill you when you are a woman.

    Posted by Kiuku | August 7, 2007, 5:20 pm
  96. A few years ago I got death threats emailed to me from some guy and so did some other feminist individuals on the internet. I contacted the police in my country, and so did one of the other bloggers, who was in the U.S (I was not in the U.S.) and they took it very seriously and were really sympathetic. He pleaded guilty and ended up with a restraining order on him.

    We wouldn’t accept this in real life, why should we on the internet? They are commiting a crime by doing this.

    Posted by CR | August 7, 2007, 9:46 pm
  97. Heart, this hurts so much. I just found this post today and it made me cry. That’s what the asswipes want, of course, so fuck them. I’m just talking to you and the other women.

    I hate this. I hate this evil. I hate this hatred of us.

    All I can do is send you feminist solidarity and support and sisterly comfort. I’m so sorry.

    Posted by Violet Socks | August 8, 2007, 7:05 pm
  98. Oh shit, my comment above is on the wrong thread. It’s supposed to be on Heart’s post about losing her website.

    I only realized it because one of the little boys who’s hacking our sites sent me an email saying “made you cry!” Lord, how old are these children? 8? 9?

    Posted by Violet Socks | August 8, 2007, 9:45 pm
  99. I disagree with your methods and such (I’ve attempted to leave a few censored comments).

    But, working for the equality of men and women is almost as important as racial equality, so I wholeheartedly support your aims and hope that men and women such as yourselves can get along in future.

    Ro’

    Posted by Ro' | August 9, 2007, 8:20 pm
  100. Just wanted to say how sorry I am this is happening to you. I wondered what was going on yesterday (or maybe the day before) when I couldn’t get to your board or BB’s blog. I’ll be thinking of you – this must be horrifying.

    Posted by funambulator | August 9, 2007, 9:02 pm
  101. Heart, I am so sorry you are dealing with this. I stand by you.

    Posted by Helen | August 10, 2007, 4:03 am
  102. So sorry this is happening. I hope you’re OK.

    Posted by Kirsten | August 10, 2007, 6:00 pm
  103. Spencer, if you are still out there: yes, you can do something. Talk to your people. Whenever you are in the company of other men, do the right thing. Every day, every minute. A guy friend says anything like, “Oh, I’d hit that”, or “bitch needs to get laid”, or “she talks too much? Fuck her in the mouth and shut her up” or “OMG, you know she went to his room to get laid and brag to her friends” blah blah blah everything we hear and everything else that doesn’t get said to our faces, every thing, every slight, every nasty cliche, every casual linkage of sex to rape and sex to violence, every depiction that reduces a woman to nothing more than a walking vagina….

    EVERY TIME, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK UP. You want a better world, Spencer? Get to work on your own people. Tell your like-minded male friends to do the same thing. Start with your own sphere of influence and create No Bullshit Zones. If your male acquaintances wonder why you’re so “hyper-sensitive” all of a sudden, explain it to them.

    Because I’m not going to. This comment has pretty much exhausted my entire male-outreach reserves. This isn’t my blog, but I’d never ban you. But damn, I wish you and your well-meaning friends would leave me alone and get to work. Give up the idea of getting applause or tea and cookies from a bunch of increasingly exhausted and trigger-happy women like me. Get to work. This is not an assignment from me. I’m not going to proof-read your life for you and give you gold stars. If you want to build a better world, get to work.

    And to my people: we have to tell every nice, well-meaning man we know that they have work to do, and that they can figure out the what and how and when all on their own.

    Posted by larkspur | August 10, 2007, 9:30 pm
  104. There’s always some guy that’s gotta get on and play the ‘But we’re not ALL like that’ music. Ugh. Enough already, let’s get down to business.

    First, as I posted on Feministe, you have to call the police and you have to allow them to use their resources to track down these guys. Most police departments, by now, should have a computer unit. These threats are illegal, and it doesn’t matter that they were conveyed on a computer. I had a guy threaten to kill me and within 5 days the police were at his house in another country and telling him what was what.

    If you get no help from your local police then go to state police, this is assuming you’re in the US.

    If you’re in Canada call the RCMP.

    If you need any help, I’ve been through this.

    Feel free to drop me a line.

    In Solidarity

    Radfem forever,

    Diana

    Posted by Diana Boston | August 12, 2007, 11:54 pm
  105. I don’t know if you need this but: don’t despair, you are awesome. After hearing that you are all under siege. I just wanted to add my 42 year old white male voice to the list of your SUPPORTERS. Strong, intelligent opinionated women are the best. I am constantly humbled.

    Quiet women never made history and too many loud males have made too much history.

    Peace

    Posted by tombeckett | August 17, 2007, 3:33 pm
  106. The world is full of gray and very rarely is anyone 100% “nice”, but there are many 100% “bad”.

    I stumbled upon this blog while researching NWO and political news and happened upon crooks and liars.
    As a male who was raised in a household run by my mother with support from my father to back her up I was raised to protect women and children from “bad” men. That seems to be an non-feminist teaching of sorts but women create life and children are the future, so as old fashioned as this may sound I would risk my life to save either. Regardless jail will never change these men who think women should be slaves to their will. Not to mention the justice system is more about violaters rights then victims rights.

    The world over is closer to a barbaric state then a civilized one. The number one reason even in the USA for women to go to the hospital with physical injuries is due to domestic violence.

    Raw anger and sexism cannot be won in courtrooms the best thing I can think of is to expose how bad it really is as opposed to keeping it under the radar and maybe more men will wake up and put the violent sexist males in their place.

    The other problem stems from the elite males in charge of the world who bombard people daily on images of sexuality and women as objects. In my battles to wake the world up to the NWO these men who are in charge of the world basicly help the sex slave industries and are in charge of whats on TV, magazines etc.

    Old teachings of organized religion certainly do not help the cause either.

    The plight of women is the hardest up hill battle in history and I wish you luck, good health, and safety.

    An attack on women is an attack on all humanity, spirituality and intelligence.

    Also no I do not believe I am perfect and am sure i have done harm to the image of women myself. I can only strive to better myself thats the best I can offer.

    Posted by William | August 17, 2007, 6:17 pm
  107. The following is criminal and those harboring or engaging with persons like this are participating in internet crime.

    Attention: I live neer Cheryl Lindsey Seelhoff!! If any of her phones are AT&T i can get yu her full contract details & last 4 of her social

    Documenting this because it’s important. Letting everybody know what is going on.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 17, 2007, 9:08 pm
  108. So sorry Heart. Just wanted to say something to you, but can’t think of anything original! We’re all behind you. xxx

    Posted by Laurelin | August 17, 2007, 10:06 pm
  109. Thanks, Laurelin, I know you all are. One thing we discussed in my Radfem Meetup workshop at Fest was, our most powerful weapon is speaking our own truth. We know this is true because of the massive efforts to silence us. So, I’m speaking my own truth, telling it exactly as it is. You learn such important things when you do this. You learn who the cowards are, who the liars are, who the truly dangerous people are, who your friends and allies are.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | August 17, 2007, 10:15 pm
  110. Instead of hitting “spam” I accidentally hit “approve” for this comment. My bad. Delete Delete Delete (after having saved of course).

    By the by, OMH, I am not BB/Biting Beaver of Den of the Biting Beaver. I am Heart of Women’s Space. I realize all women look alike to some, be that as it may, we are, in fact, individuals.

    Now stay the hell away from me, and stay the hell away from her as well. You are a messed up person.

    Heart

    Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter | October 18, 2007, 10:13 am
  111. I am really saddened by this hatred to women. All you radical women bloggers are so brave.
    A few years ago, I was stalked by an ex-punter from my years of being involved with violent pornography. He was a computer designer. So, although I had moved to a different city, and was ex-directory, he used to find my address and phone number. It was terrifying. I still find computers scary sometimes.
    Although, are cowards, rape and violence is all too real. I can completly why many radical women bloggers cannot continue. But, I know that voices will be silencened.
    After all, bullies often seemed bigger the really are.
    I dwelt with with my stalker by phoning his work ansaphone saying –
    “F-k off out of my life. I am not your whore.”
    I know the ansaphone was listen by whoever was in work first, and he was having the day off. He was never in touch with me again. His image was of a married man.
    I so sorry about this mental violence, they putting you through. My best wishes are with you – Rebecca

    Posted by Rebecca | October 18, 2007, 11:08 pm

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