I can’t look at these photos without thinking how the RR so strongly supports Israel without question, and not because they support Israel’s politics or anything, although they will say they do, but merely because that plot of land as a sovereign country figures so centrally in their “End Times” mythology. And they do it while being anti-Semitic to boot. 😦 What horrors.
It is not just the religious right that supports Israel without question. The Congress just passed a resolution supporting Israel, unanimously in the Senate and with a whole eight votes against in the House. Democratic leaders are denouncing the puppet Prime Minister of Iraq because he condemned what he called Israel’s “operation of mass destruction and mass punishment.” With the midterm elections only a few months off, few politicians would dare protest blatant war crimes committed by such a staunch ally. After all, according to the Bush doctrine, Lebanon is sheltering terrorists, so that makes the whole country fair game!
I’m just putting this in here for interest, to know what’s going on re foreign nationals in Lebanon. Canada has approx 50,000 Canadian citizens in Lebanon. They and most Canadians are furious at the pro-Bush/Israeli stance our prime minister has taken here. Some of Canada’s Lebanese people have been here since pre 1900. Heart I know you may want to take this out since it’s a tanget to your story.
http://tinyurl.com/qougl
Americans pack Canadian rescue vessel
Ship could be last ticket out of war zone, but only 49 Canadians show up to board
MARK MACKINNON and
From Thursday’s Globe and Mail
TYRE, LEBANON — Taking advantage of a brief lull in the Israeli assault on this port city, a desperate crowd of foreign nationals, including 49 Canadians, escaped war-battered southern Lebanon Wednesday aboard a Canadian-chartered vessel.
Canada had been expecting to pick up as many as 1,000 stranded Canadians, and officials could only guess why so few actually turned up. Some may already have fled by land or remained in the south, unwilling or unable to leave, they said.
“There are those who are afraid to travel on the roads during the war, and justifiably so,” said Major Paul Gillies, part of the military detachment of about 15 Canadian soldiers that secured the port, with help from the Lebanese army, during the evacuation.
After a night of pounding targets in and around Tyre, Israeli jets and ships fired only occasional rounds Wednesday afternoon as foreigners filed onto what might be the last civilian boat out of the south until the conflict ends.
It is understandable that Canadians in Lebanon would be furious at the pro Bush/Israeli stance of the prime minister, but I am curious: how do Canadian citizens in Israel feel about this?
If there were 50,000 Israelis with Canadian passports who were being bombed and ignored by our prime minister when they wanted to evacuate, Canadians citizens would be furious. I hope I’ve understood your query. I think I have. Sadly.
This is slightly tangential, too, but I’m not sure exactly where to place it. I have noticed in news and conservative blogs that much RR hay is being made out of the hanging of that 16 year old Iranian girl from the crane.
It is horrible. However. what are the most effective, brief arguments for why it does not justify our being in Iraq, nuking Iran, etc.?
I just got a commentator who said, fundamentalist Christianity is awful, but Sharia is worse. I could, of course, give a long, sophisticated lecture in response to that, but I am so shocked by the hanging + Lebanon + Iraq + everything else, that I find myself at a loss.
And school will be starting soon, and it will come up with the undergraduates, and will have to be dealt with in some way which is not too chaotic, etc.
Has anybody got any good soundbytes (bites?), or suggestions of sources for some? The best I am doing today so far is, just because they are sexist criminals, does not mean we should be murderers and more, nor will that necessarily stop them.
I’m not sure what you mean about understanding my query sadly. The Canadian prime minister is ignoring 50,000 Lebanese with Canadian passports being bombed and who want to be evacuated? Ugh, that’s awful. I had no idea what the Canadian prime minister was doing. I thought that was something only Bush was doing.
MARJAYOUN: Mohammad Ali Qobeissi, a member of the National Council for Scientific Research, said on Sunday that a crater caused by an Israeli munition in Khiam contained “a high degree of unidentified radioactive materials.” Qobeissi, along with Ibrahim Rashidi from the Faculty of Sciences at the Lebanese University, have inspected the crater – which is 3 meters deep and has a diameter of 10 meters – in the Jlahiyyeh quarter in Khiam, with a Geiger-Muller radioactivity counter and nuclear material detector.
“A team from the council will test a sample from the crater in order to find out what kinds of radioactive materials it contains,” Qobeisi told The Daily Star.
He added that the Israeli weapons launched on Khiam and the neighboring areas of South Lebanon “probably contained a high level of uranium.”
The scientific team doubted, however, that the dust caused by these weapons was likely to contain the kind of radioactive materials which would later lead to cancers.
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Hmm. I thought all radioactive materials are capable of causing cancer, though certainly some are worse than others. Of course USA considers depleted uranium weapons harmless, but that is only self-serving propaganda.
I can’t look at these photos without thinking how the RR so strongly supports Israel without question, and not because they support Israel’s politics or anything, although they will say they do, but merely because that plot of land as a sovereign country figures so centrally in their “End Times” mythology. And they do it while being anti-Semitic to boot. 😦 What horrors.
Posted by Sophia | July 24, 2006, 2:04 pmIt is not just the religious right that supports Israel without question. The Congress just passed a resolution supporting Israel, unanimously in the Senate and with a whole eight votes against in the House. Democratic leaders are denouncing the puppet Prime Minister of Iraq because he condemned what he called Israel’s “operation of mass destruction and mass punishment.” With the midterm elections only a few months off, few politicians would dare protest blatant war crimes committed by such a staunch ally. After all, according to the Bush doctrine, Lebanon is sheltering terrorists, so that makes the whole country fair game!
Posted by Aletha | July 27, 2006, 7:12 amI’m just putting this in here for interest, to know what’s going on re foreign nationals in Lebanon. Canada has approx 50,000 Canadian citizens in Lebanon. They and most Canadians are furious at the pro-Bush/Israeli stance our prime minister has taken here. Some of Canada’s Lebanese people have been here since pre 1900. Heart I know you may want to take this out since it’s a tanget to your story.
http://tinyurl.com/qougl
Americans pack Canadian rescue vessel
Ship could be last ticket out of war zone, but only 49 Canadians show up to board
MARK MACKINNON and
From Thursday’s Globe and Mail
TYRE, LEBANON — Taking advantage of a brief lull in the Israeli assault on this port city, a desperate crowd of foreign nationals, including 49 Canadians, escaped war-battered southern Lebanon Wednesday aboard a Canadian-chartered vessel.
Canada had been expecting to pick up as many as 1,000 stranded Canadians, and officials could only guess why so few actually turned up. Some may already have fled by land or remained in the south, unwilling or unable to leave, they said.
“There are those who are afraid to travel on the roads during the war, and justifiably so,” said Major Paul Gillies, part of the military detachment of about 15 Canadian soldiers that secured the port, with help from the Lebanese army, during the evacuation.
After a night of pounding targets in and around Tyre, Israeli jets and ships fired only occasional rounds Wednesday afternoon as foreigners filed onto what might be the last civilian boat out of the south until the conflict ends.
more at link
Posted by Pony | July 27, 2006, 4:58 pmIt is understandable that Canadians in Lebanon would be furious at the pro Bush/Israeli stance of the prime minister, but I am curious: how do Canadian citizens in Israel feel about this?
Posted by Branjor | July 28, 2006, 11:10 amIf there were 50,000 Israelis with Canadian passports who were being bombed and ignored by our prime minister when they wanted to evacuate, Canadians citizens would be furious. I hope I’ve understood your query. I think I have. Sadly.
Posted by Pony | July 29, 2006, 5:01 amThis is slightly tangential, too, but I’m not sure exactly where to place it. I have noticed in news and conservative blogs that much RR hay is being made out of the hanging of that 16 year old Iranian girl from the crane.
It is horrible. However. what are the most effective, brief arguments for why it does not justify our being in Iraq, nuking Iran, etc.?
I just got a commentator who said, fundamentalist Christianity is awful, but Sharia is worse. I could, of course, give a long, sophisticated lecture in response to that, but I am so shocked by the hanging + Lebanon + Iraq + everything else, that I find myself at a loss.
And school will be starting soon, and it will come up with the undergraduates, and will have to be dealt with in some way which is not too chaotic, etc.
Has anybody got any good soundbytes (bites?), or suggestions of sources for some? The best I am doing today so far is, just because they are sexist criminals, does not mean we should be murderers and more, nor will that necessarily stop them.
Posted by Professor Zero | July 30, 2006, 6:21 pmI’m not sure what you mean about understanding my query sadly. The Canadian prime minister is ignoring 50,000 Lebanese with Canadian passports being bombed and who want to be evacuated? Ugh, that’s awful. I had no idea what the Canadian prime minister was doing. I thought that was something only Bush was doing.
Posted by Branjor | July 31, 2006, 10:08 pmWas Israel using radioactive weaponry? Lebanese scientists are now confirming this rumor.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=1&article_id=74891#
MARJAYOUN: Mohammad Ali Qobeissi, a member of the National Council for Scientific Research, said on Sunday that a crater caused by an Israeli munition in Khiam contained “a high degree of unidentified radioactive materials.” Qobeissi, along with Ibrahim Rashidi from the Faculty of Sciences at the Lebanese University, have inspected the crater – which is 3 meters deep and has a diameter of 10 meters – in the Jlahiyyeh quarter in Khiam, with a Geiger-Muller radioactivity counter and nuclear material detector.
“A team from the council will test a sample from the crater in order to find out what kinds of radioactive materials it contains,” Qobeisi told The Daily Star.
He added that the Israeli weapons launched on Khiam and the neighboring areas of South Lebanon “probably contained a high level of uranium.”
The scientific team doubted, however, that the dust caused by these weapons was likely to contain the kind of radioactive materials which would later lead to cancers.
——————
Hmm. I thought all radioactive materials are capable of causing cancer, though certainly some are worse than others. Of course USA considers depleted uranium weapons harmless, but that is only self-serving propaganda.
Posted by Aletha | August 23, 2006, 5:44 am