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Male Terrorism, UK: Man Saws Lesbian’s Head Off

A 46 year old man faces a life sentence for the murder of a woman who broke up with him after coming out as a lesbian…At his trial the court was told that [Jacqueline] Queen was likely still alive as [James Seaton] began sawing off her head in a frenzied fit. Her blood soaked body was discovered wrapped in a sheet on a quiet North London street last November.

On the witness stand pathologist Dr Vesna Djurovic testified that Queen had suffered dozens of injuries before she died.

… Seaton went berserk when Queen told him she did not want to see him any more because she was a lesbian.

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Heart (moved from other thread)

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10 thoughts on “Male Terrorism, UK: Man Saws Lesbian’s Head Off

  1. Luckynkl Says:
    October 16th, 2006 at 7:53 am e

    RE: Killer nearly sawed off lesbian’s head

    According to the article, someone tried to claim James Seaton was suffering from mental illness.

    If that be the case, then men in general should be charged with being mentally ill and locked up in a cage with all the other dangerous animals and not let out without a leash. Because it seems as tho they’ve gone absoutely rabid in recent times and can’t be trusted to run around loose in society any more.

    (Moved from other thread)

    Posted by womensspace | October 16, 2006, 10:40 am
  2. I didn’t hear about this one. When I get beyond the swearing stage, I’ll sit down and write up her story for the DV Memorial blog.

    In the meantime, I’ll just say; fucking arsehole, you deserve to be put down like the rabid dog you are.

    Posted by stormcloud | October 16, 2006, 12:06 pm
  3. This tragic story has been ignored by the main news sources, and only covered in the gay/lesbian and regional news services.

    Posted by stormcloud | October 16, 2006, 4:23 pm
  4. “Seaton claimed he was too drunk at the time to be responsible for his actions”

    That is a good one, when women are ‘too drunk’; we are ‘responsible’ for being raped.

    Posted by sparklematrix | October 16, 2006, 4:47 pm
  5. Seaton claimed anything and everything.
    Mental illness, drunkeness, anything and everything to escape responsibility. They found the bastard guity anyway.

    Poor Jacqueline was beaten with a hammer, and attaked with a 12-inch knife on the day she died. There seemed to be some evidence she had suffered violence before her final day also.

    http://dvmemorial.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/jacqueline-queen/
    (This is a UK memorial)

    Posted by stormcloud | October 16, 2006, 7:25 pm
  6. I’m wondering why emphasis was put on the fact that Jacqueline was a lesbian? If she was hetero and left him for another man would James Seaton have reacted any differently? I doubt it. I don’t think he murdered her because of her lesbianism. I think he murdered her because she was trying to leave him. Which is, in fact, when most abused women are likely to be murdered.

    I think Jacqueline’s sexuality is irrelevant and nothing but a red herring to distract from the fact that she was murdered because she was a woman, a married one no less, which gives men like Seaton (and in general) even more of a sense of entitlement. In the year 2006, men still view women as their property.

    So if a sense of entitlement and viewing women as property is now thought of in terms of “mental illness,” then I dare say that men, as a class, are are all “suffering” from it.

    Posted by Luckynkl | October 16, 2006, 9:58 pm
  7. Correction, it doesn’t look at tho they were married. But tht doesn’t make anything I said above, any less true. As soon as men mark their territory, that makes a woman HIS.

    Posted by Luckynkl | October 16, 2006, 10:07 pm
  8. I think Jacqueline’s lesbianism DOES factor into this crime. Many women are murdered by men, it is true, *especially* when they leave those men. But how many of them are murdered by having their heads sawed off, and while they are still alive no less? This crime seems to be **EXTRA** grisly and sadistic, and I wonder if that **EXTRA** is not maybe a punishment for the crime of not only leaving him, a man, but daring to do it for the love of mere WOMEN?

    Posted by Branjor | October 17, 2006, 12:15 am
  9. I’ve been thinking about this. On the one hand, making sure everybody knows that this woman was a lesbian can be viewed as lesbophobic, i.e., everybody should understand why the guy sawed her head off– she was a lesbian, after all. And in fact, as someone else said, this story didn’t make mainstream news, it was reported locally, where it happened, and in gay and lesbian news sources, which I thought was horrifying. This is a beheading, hello. When Islamic fundamentalists behead someone, it’s headlines the world over. When a man beheads a lesbian? Eh. Local news. GLBT news.

    I think Jacqueline’s lesbianism likely did figure in to the brutality of this crime. A woman telling a man she is a lesbian is a woman shutting a thick door and padlocking it. She isn’t available to him anymore. She will never be available to him. This calls forth male violence.

    Then again, we have the story I blogged about last week where the guy tied his “girlfriend” to her truck, alive, and dragged her a mile to her death. That seems equivalent to this for torture, mayhem, horror, hatred.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | October 17, 2006, 4:25 am
  10. I agree with both Luckynkl and Heart simultaneously if that is possible.

    A woman daring to leave a man (even if he is an abusive scumbag) is a ‘crime’ in patriarchy and is frequently punished by beatings &/or murder (and sometimes what starts out as a beating continues to murder, other times the murder is carefully premeditated).

    Perhaps Jacqueline’s ‘additional’ crime was the sexual unavailability, and perhaps warranted the ‘additional’ gruesomeness?

    Although it is strange that this murderer took her more seriously about her lesbianism, the main hype in mainstream porn being the psuedo-lesbianism, and that lesbians are sexually available to men anyway.

    Who knows? Because perhaps he would have done exactly the same if she were to leave him for another man.

    Part of the purpose of the DV memorial, apart from simply remembering the victims, is to make an ongoing record of WHY they were murdered, and I guess how they were murdered as well. Most of the WHYs tend to be the woman daring to leave the man. Two thirds of female domestic homicide victims (in the UK) are leaving or have left the partner.

    My vision for the memorial site is also to create a network of similar sites around the world. In the UK (with our smaller population than the US) we have on average, one woman murdered every three days by a partner or ex-partner.

    Frequently I miss these stories in the news. This one particularly was buried by national press. However, even when covered by national press, they are rarely headline, frontpage news. The ones that make the frontpage are usually young attractive victims. Whereas any (male) British soldier killed in Iraq usually makes the top stories. Yet these are soldiers who are in a warzone, whereas one would have thought that a DV victim, not in the ‘business’ of war, but in ‘civilised’ society, would be more shocking and warrant higher press coverage.

    Posted by stormcloud | October 17, 2006, 9:33 am

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