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River at Baghdad Burning on the Hanging of Saddam

Saddam has been hanged.  This is wrong, wrong, wrong in a million ways, so wrong.

River at Baghdad Burning:

The question now is, but why? I really have been asking myself that these last few days. What does America possibly gain by damaging Iraq to this extent? I’m certain only raving idiots still believe this war and occupation were about WMD or an actual fear of Saddam.

Al Qaeda? That’s laughable. Bush has effectively created more terrorists in Iraq these last 4 years than Osama could have created in 10 different terrorist camps in the distant hills of Afghanistan. Our children now play games of ‘sniper’ and ‘jihadi’, pretending that one hit an American soldier between the eyes and this one overturned a Humvee.

This last year especially has been a turning point. Nearly every Iraqi has lost so much. So much. There’s no way to describe the loss we’ve experienced with this war and occupation. There are no words to relay the feelings that come with the knowledge that daily almost 40 corpses are found in different states of decay and mutilation. There is no compensation for the dense, black cloud of fear that hangs over the head of every Iraqi. Fear of things so out of ones hands, it borders on the ridiculous- like whether your name is ‘too Sunni’ or ‘too Shia’. Fear of the larger things- like the Americans in the tank, the police patrolling your area in black bandanas and green banners, and the Iraqi soldiers wearing black masks at the checkpoint.

Again, I can’t help but ask myself why this was all done? What was the point of breaking Iraq so that it was beyond repair? Iran seems to be the only gainer. Their presence in Iraq is so well-established, publicly criticizing a cleric or ayatollah verges on suicide. Has the situation gone so beyond America that it is now irretrievable? Or was this a part of the plan all along? My head aches just posing the questions.

What has me most puzzled right now is: why add fuel to the fire? Sunnis and moderate Shia are being chased out of the larger cities in the south and the capital. Baghdad is being torn apart with Shia leaving Sunni areas and Sunnis leaving Shia areas- some under threat and some in fear of attacks. People are being openly shot at check points or in drive by killings… Many colleges have stopped classes. Thousands of Iraqis no longer send their children to school- it’s just not safe.

Why make things worse by insisting on Saddam’s execution now? Who gains if they hang Saddam? Iran, naturally, but who else? There is a real fear that this execution will be the final blow that will shatter Iraq. Some Sunni and Shia tribes have threatened to arm their members against the Americans if Saddam is executed. Iraqis in general are watching closely to see what happens next, and quietly preparing for the worst.

This is because now, Saddam no longer represents himself or his regime. Through the constant insistence of American war propaganda, Saddam is now representative of all Sunni Arabs (never mind most of his government were Shia). The Americans, through their speeches and news articles and Iraqi Puppets, have made it very clear that they consider him to personify Sunni Arab resistance to the occupation. Basically, with this execution, what the Americans are saying is “Look- Sunni Arabs- this is your man, we all know this. We’re hanging him- he symbolizes you.” And make no mistake about it, this trial and verdict and execution are 100% American. Some of the actors were Iraqi enough, but the production, direction and montage was pure Hollywood (though low-budget, if you ask me).

That is, of course, why Talbani doesn’t want to sign his death penalty- not because the mob man suddenly grew a conscience, but because he doesn’t want to be the one who does the hanging- he won’t be able to travel far away enough if he does that.

Maliki’s government couldn’t contain their glee. They announced the ratification of the execution order before the actual court did. A few nights ago, some American news program interviewed Maliki’s bureau chief, Basim Al-Hassani who was speaking in accented American English about the upcoming execution like it was a carnival he’d be attending. He sat, looking sleazy and not a little bit ridiculous, his dialogue interspersed with ‘gonna’, ‘gotta’ and ‘wanna’… Which happens, I suppose, when the only people you mix with are American soldiers.

My only conclusion is that the Americans want to withdraw from Iraq, but would like to leave behind a full-fledged civil war because it wouldn’t look good if they withdraw and things actually begin to improve, would it?

Here we come to the end of 2006 and I am sad. Not simply sad for the state of the country, but for the state of our humanity, as Iraqis. We’ve all lost some of the compassion and civility that I felt made us special four years ago. I take myself as an example. Nearly four years ago, I cringed every time I heard about the death of an American soldier. They were occupiers, but they were humans also and the knowledge that they were being killed in my country gave me sleepless nights. Never mind they crossed oceans to attack the country, I actually felt for them.

Had I not chronicled those feelings of agitation in this very blog, I wouldn’t believe them now. Today, they simply represent numbers. 3000 Americans dead over nearly four years? Really? That’s the number of dead Iraqis in less than a month. The Americans had families? Too bad. So do we. So do the corpses in the streets and the ones waiting for identification in the morgue.

Is the American soldier that died today in Anbar more important than a cousin I have who was shot last month on the night of his engagement to a woman he’s wanted to marry for the last six years? I don’t think so.

Just because Americans die in smaller numbers, it doesn’t make them more significant, does it?



8 thoughts on “River at Baghdad Burning on the Hanging of Saddam

  1. Sick, truly sick.

    This is the most morbid administration I have lived through.

    War crimes? How about in gulf war I when Bush Sr. bombed the road away from Kuwait, after Iraq had agreed to withdraw, trapping every vehicle for miles, and killing 100,000 people in a single night?

    Posted by saltyC | December 30, 2006, 5:27 pm
  2. Yes it is, not to mention the execution is going to be fucking TELEVISED. Dear goddess, this is a barbaric, barbaric age, as barbaric as any which preceded it, “Buy yer popcorn here, watch the execution!”



    Posted by womensspace | December 30, 2006, 5:31 pm
  3. Televised execution! This is just too horrible

    Posted by sparklematrix | December 30, 2006, 9:10 pm
  4. Well, I landed in Atlanta this morning at 6 AM after a long, long flight and realized thunderstorms were going to delay my collecting flight, so I walked up to a handy computer and went to check your blog…so I found out about the hanging first from YOU. Then while waiting for my next flight I watched it on CNN, with a lot of spin doctors talking about what a great day this was for democracy. It was a very, very surrealistic arrival to the U.S.
    all over the Atlanta airport.

    Posted by profacero | December 30, 2006, 9:27 pm
  5. p.s. sorry about misspellings — I am jet lagged — I mean connecting, not connecting, and the phrase “all over the atlanta airport” should have come after “CNN”.

    Posted by profacero | December 30, 2006, 9:28 pm
  6. Glad you’re back, profacero!

    Here are responses from Iraqi bloggers to the execution of Saddam. Goddess help us because we are going to need it.


    Fatima from Thoughts From Baghdad

    On the subject of Saddam Hussein, I still can’t believe that they hung him on the first day of Eid. Quite distasteful, quite blood-thirsty, very wrong. Like they’re handing him over on a gold plate to one group of Iraqis, and completely throwing the plate in the faces of the others. Making Eid a double Eid for some, and a bloody Eid for the others. So wrong.

    Khalid Jarrar, Secrets in Baghdad

    Saddam was executed today, as you all know, and although I knew since yesterday that he was gonna be hanged this morning but I was still very surprised, to be honest with you, It was much quicker than I thought it would be.

    You know that I always opposed Saddam and was always against him. Nevertheless, I was upset today.

    Saddam was a criminal dictator, and he deserves to be hanged, but still, what happened isn’t right.

    Saddam should be trailled for all his crimes, against ALL IRAQIS, ALL IRAQIS, all the crimes he committed against Iraqis, Shea, Kurds and yes, yes, yes: against Sonna too.

    Saddam was a dictator that would kill whoever opposes him, and would award whoever is loyal to him, he killed both husbands of his two daughters who also happen to be his cousins [two sunnies, his own blood] when they turned against him, and at the same time, you can take a quick look at the 56 cards of the most wanted Iraqi officials that the occupation distributed couple of years ago [remember it?] and you will notice that many of them were Shea!

    It’s only fair that Saddam is questioned about all his crimes against all Iraqis, all Iraqis.

    Executing him after the Dijel trial only is nothing but a political statement, just so the Media can say: Saddam was punished for killing 148 SHEA, just another cheap shot to confirm the first story of “liberating poor Shea from the oppression of Saddam and Sunna”.

    Saddam, have killed thousands and thousands of Kurds and of Sonna, of Christians and all other groups living in Iraq, and It’s only fair that he is questioned about all those, all the crimes he made against Iraqis.

    Back in the nineties, must have been around 1995 or so if I recall right, Saddam executed a number of Baghdad’s wealthiest merchants and took over all their possessions because he accused them of being a reason behind some of the economical suffering of Iraqis [by doing certain trade tricks to increase prices maybe? By monopolizing food and goods? Something like that] and left them hanging in the streets of Baghdad. Now I bet you haven’t heard of that have you? Why? Because they don’t have a label! They are not “poor Shea” or “poor Kurds” they are just Iraqis, and being Iraqi isn’t good for the occupation’s propaganda, you need to be Shea or Kurdish so that you fit in their propaganda stories of going to Iraqi to liberate a certain oppressed sect of Iraqi people. Thousands of crimes like that happened in Iraq, and Iraqis have all the right to sue Saddam for them, even if individually, he hurt every single person in Iraq, even if he didn’t physically hurt him or his family, still he deprived them from their rights, many rights, including their share of Iraq’s wealth, and killed so many Iraqis, and because of his foolish policy he put the country in two destructive wars [I know I know, supported by many different external parties, including the USA], that among many other things, and for these crimes, all Iraqis deserve to sue him and sentence him, with whatever they decide in the court of laws.

    So that was my first problem: The trials should have gone all the way to the end before executing him.

    A thought: Shea and Sonna, lived together, side by side since ever. The biggest tribes in Iraq that are distributed all over Iraq, have Sonni, Shea parts of the tribe, depending on where they are. Mixed marriages between Sonna and Shea are so common, my parents for example and the parents of soooo many of the people I know. The sectarian tension now in Iraq is politically based tensions: evidence one: history of living peacefully together historically, before Saddam even! Two: a whole year passed after the war before any sectarian tension started, and it didn’t start before Bremer put the bases of the first Iraqi government basing on sectarian bases. Three: there are about a million Iraqis in Jordan, no sectarian tension among those at all. All three points and others mean: Sectarian problems in Iraq started when the occupation came, and It’s politically based and can be solved politically, too.

    My second problem: The current government is by no means legitimate enough to trial Saddam, as horrible as he was, he is far, way far more decent and humane and smart than all the clowns in the Iraqi government now. Saddam should be trailled by Iraqis, real Iraqis with real authority and sovereignty, real government that cares for the best interests of Iraqis, and maybe add to that: has less death squads and secret torturing chambers. And less loyalty to Iran and USA wouldn’t kill too. And this is something that upsets me a lot, his death had nothing o do with justice, not even close, not even in the same zip code, it was nothing but a personal revenge and a political card: A political card for the losers in the American administration and the Iraqi government that don’t have anything else to brag about achieving except killing him, and a personal revenge: Now new footages were published about the last moments of his death, and the people that witnessed his execution were chanting the name of Al-Sadir [The father of Moqtada that it’s widely believed that Saddam assassinated him]. Hmmm.

    My third problem is the effect of this execution on Iraq: Saddam died the moment that his statue fell back in 2003. He stopped being the decision maker in Iraq. Now in this time of Iraq’s life all the efforts are being directed to be able to build some kind of national unity government, that includes all Iraqi parties, a representative government that helps everyone get involved in the Iraqi government and in making decisions [as if the Iraqi government really makes decisions on it’s own anyways] and now that a lot of the parties were included in the new negotiations including (ex) Baathists that want to join the new political process, at this really critical time, they execute Saddam, Baathists were very offended and very upset, today I heard a spokesman of Baath party speaking from a neighboring country on one of t he satelite channels saying that baathists promise to continue their fight and to revenge for the death of Saddam. What the hell was the American/Iraqi government thinking? So in addition to the point that it’s really not the best thing to do when you want to attracts baathists to be a part of the new Iraq, it’s gonna increase violence on the ground, even if temporarily, how many extra souls are we gonna have to lose because of this?

    My fourth problem: the timing of the execution in the first day of the Adha Eid, the single biggest religious/social holiday for Muslims. A festival of happiness and Joy where people are supposed to be celebrating, and the execute him in it? Iraqi law prohibits carrying out executions in the religious holidays btw. I am sure that they thought that executing him in this day will absurd some of the anger since it’s Eid time, and Eid lasts for four days. But really it won’t, people are offended by this very much, and in this Eid Muslims sacrifice a sheep usually, and usually it’s about 5-6 am in the first day of Eid when they slaughter them. And that’s the exact time when they hanged him, what are they trying to say exactly? And executing him instead of shooting him is also offending, being a military man. The was he was taken to execution brought him sympathy from lot’s of Iraqis, including myself. I was very upset when I heard that he was executed, it wasn’t justice and it didn’t feel right at all, it was more like a 60-something years old man in the hands of a dirty gang executing him for personal and political reasons that it was implementing justice.

    Some argue that the government wanted to execute him to send a message to baathists that their leader was killed so they would lose hope, but what happened really is that they made him a martyr in the eyes of his supporters and became an inspiration. Good job.

    Why did the American/Iraqi government wanted to kill him so quickly? what is it that they didn’t want him to say? the source of the chemical weapons he used against Kurds? the details of the west support during his war with Iran? what exactly is it?

    I Don’t know what to say, I just wish that at his last moments he regretted his crimes and asked God for forgiveness. I wish that from all my heart, I just don’t wanna think of his fate facing God with all what he did. I hope that his sad end, the death of his two children, being removed from the presidency of Iraq and taking away all the power he had, seperating him from his daughters and wife, I hope that all these disasters made him remember God and cry a tear and pray for forgiveness, God is so forgiving and so mercyful, who knows? May all souls rest in Peace.

    I had more to say but I just forgot it now, I will say it when I remember it, and I haven’t editted this one really, almost directly from my head to your eyes, so I hope that I will get to edit it tomorrow too!

    From No Pain No Gain

    I watched with disgust as the media showed segments of this hanging, not because I love him but because it is inhumane to see a man you hate get killed infront of you. We humans are prone to hate somebody, a man who ruined our lives but are unable to commit a crime ourselves or even observe it live, many of us do not have this capability by nature; that is how Faisal sabbardi interviewed by several current medias said it “Saddam killed my family and friends and I left Iraq because of Saddam but there is no reason or benefit for me to witness his entire execution on video, all I need is a photo of his dead body to prove to me that he is dead”. However because Iraqis are gullible, like the time the death of Saddam’s sons were denied for the first few days, this event needed extensive footages for Iraqis to believe that, yes, Saddam did actually get executed. That’s how barbaric Iraqis have become; by tolerating the death and to provide the way of execution to the entire national public and world-wide.

    Each Middle Eastern country had its own style of benefit and view of Saddam. However at the end of the day when Saddam has left this Earth, several people like the Palestinians who benefited from Saddam’s aid, Jordanians, Syrians and Libyans still have their respect to this man. The Libyan leader recently showed sympathy towards this very day. Why? I must ask myself…….Is it maybe he is scared that this day of execution will reach to his doorstep too because the whole public witnessed it and he needed to be seen as something better than saddam by sympathizing over his death? Why is it they see him so obedient and respectful when Iraqis, Kuwaitis and Iranians see him as a murderer? True, Saddam was seen as a respectful man towards certain countrymen but he was certainly not the same with local citizens and those he made war against. Only Iraqi citizens are aware of how bad Saddam and his regime really was, they faced it first hand directly, there should be no major reason for other people to deny what Iraqis say about Saddam.

    I must say there is a difference for an Iraqi being sad about viewing this execution, people like me…and an Iraqi who had been sad from the moment they caught Saddam. Saddam is a weak man who refused to use his weapon he had in the hole while hiding but because alot of people listened to him, he became certainly powerful. There is much to say about this moment, the good and bad, but I can only say that this execution is not everything. It is simply a step closer to the ultimate goals of the average Iraq, which is to attain peace, security and equality. It is part of the solution. Whether Saddam’s era will continue to be used as revenge or retaliation, that is one questionable possibility in regards to how much people are willing to fight for such a cause. Time as always, will tell.

    Iraqi Confused Kid

    I woke up at 9, mumbled Happy-eids to parents, then headed straight to the TV…and I recieved the images…the first thing that struck me was how unbelievable this was…Saddam was a part of my everyday patterns as a human being, I woke up, ate, drank, shat, slept, and Saddam is the undefeatable tyrant that never dies. It was hard, hard, hard to know that Saddam is no more, he was arrested, humilitaed and sentenced to death and I didn’t feel much – but to know that he is gone is very strange – He was a given fact of life! and now he’s dead…This doesn’t happen in the world that I normally inhibit…

    I also must say that from all the people that ruled Iraq at any given time, I do not hate any of them as much as I hate Saddam Hussein – through his stubborn Great Leader complex he has made us suffer so much, and pretty much a lot of the blame for the distingeration of Iraq as a fabric can be laid squarely on his shoulders, but while I was seeing these images, I had to keep reminding myself how much I hated Saddam Hussein, because they were flat-out disgusting. The problem of our politicians is that they always have to ruin the good stuff with the bad stuff, Mowafaq al-Rubay’ie, the national security advisor, said that Saddam looked very weak and pathetic while he was taking his final steps, but in the images I watched he looked just as brave, magnificent and charismatic as ever, despite his great evils, I must say that Saddam Hussein is the bravest guy that ever ruled Iraq. The problem is that Saddam is an extremely charismatic figure, he can drive many people to inspiration and is simply the most bravest man of all his opponents, Muwafaq, al-Maliki, al-Jaafari and al-Hakim wouldn’t stand for two seconds alone with this guy, they all ran weeping to Americans…It’s just, unfair, that they should be sing-songing like this while not only are they as cruel as he, but they are nowhere as brave or influential as him.

    While I think that Saddam deserves a thousand hangings, I completely disapprove of the way they have handled this – they chose a very bad timing for it, the holy Eid is a day of joy, of happiness, of forgiveness, people do not want to start their day by watching a man insulted a thousand times with a rope at his neck, true, I completely understand the fact that there are hundreds of families who are glad to see Saddam suffer and die like their sons and families did, but they are not all Iraqis, and they are not all people, and true, maybe Shiites would feel there might be a religious conrguence for this timing as it is harmonious with the vengeful nature of Shiite Islam, as hatred of tyranny and cruel avengance are major pillars in their sect, but with the confusion of Iraqis everywhere and growing tensions, such delicate matters should not be handled as bluntly as they were when all the other people watch these images accompanied by the whole lot of insults and curses, on such a holy peaceful occasion, the feeling they give you is one of complete injustice and being cruller than the man they are hanging.

    The joy that could have been to see Saddam executed was lost in the bad conditions to which Iraq is heading, from a strategic point of view, Saddam’s killing could go a long way in dispiriting Baathists, as Baath is largely a personality cult – it is without doubt a significant hit to morale, but it still remains unknown how far could this psychologically curb them.

    As for our naive Arab brothers here and Jordan, they completely condemned and rejected the sentence, they lost a ‘great Arab leader who was the only one with balls’ – yeah, Saddam did stand up, but look at the price we paid for that little hypocrisy of his.

    I am sure many Iraqis have been relieved at the execution, and they have every right to, but it’s a shame that this sight has saddened many others by the stupid way it was handled.

    I don’t know of a precise word for my feelings – Little if at all joy, unbelieving numbness and extreme disappointment. I’ve always wanted Saddam to be killed, but the guy had a way of making you feel sorry for him.

    From Truth About Iraqis

    And this is the new Iraq?

    There are those who say Saddam received more justice than his victims. How so?

    In Islam, it is forbidden to execute anyone on such holy days. Of course, those who killed him are not Muslim.

    In Islam, it is wrong to desecrate the deceased. But of course, those who killed him are not Muslim. Sadrists, Badrists, Malikis, Talabanis, Roubaeis, Barazanis. Not Muslim.

    This is about humiliation. Of Sunnis. Of Shias. Of Muslims. Of Arabs. Nothing else.

    Iraqi authorities are refusing to hand over his body because they fear that the signs of torture will be visible and enrage Iraqis.

    Remember O you who claim to follow Ali, Hassan and Hussein. Even Yazid delivered the corpses. Rememmber.

    When will Sharon go on trial for his butchery in Sabra, Shatila, Jenin, Beit Hanoun and others?

    When will Geagea of Lebanon go on trial for the thousands he murdered?

    From Nabil’s Blog

    I think I’m happy to see this despot recieving a fear verdict and being executed for the crimes he had done to the iraqi people, and for his aggressive behaviour towards the poor people.

    and yet, I’m so sad actually that This (Great man as he was) this symbol of the Arab nation (as hypocrties used to describe him) is being treated this way.. being hold with disgust by two guards, and executed in this humiliating matter, its too much for me to take easily..

    I think the Iraqi government has taken this day to carry out the vedrict to revenge to themselves and to attack sunni community in an indirect way, because today was only the sunni’s Eid, not the shiite’s Eid..
    They were eagred to execute him as soon as they can, to insure their wicked sick minds that the idea of Saddam coming back to power will be terminated, though they know that this won’t happen even if he remained alive..

    Anyway, carrying out the verdict will not solve anything, and will not make the security situation any better, it will only make it worse, and by this bad timing they attacked an important sect of the Iraqi people, and I don’t think that this sect will remain harmless to what they’ve did..

    Finally, I still don’t know whether I’m happy or Sad..but to say the truth I’m Sad, because I think that Iraq will never ever have a president that knows how to deal with the bad groups of the iraqi people like Saddam.



    Posted by womensspace | December 31, 2006, 1:34 am
  7. Happy New Year and welcome to the new dark ages. This is my first blog post here or anywhere else; somehow the New Year seemed the right time and this topic the right one. I’ve been lurking here for a few weeks and love the thoughtful dialogue Heart creates on so many issues I care about. Please let me know if I violate any blogging etiquette since I’m new at this!

    Thank you for all the words from Baghdad. My heart breaks every day for the suffering of the Iraqi people brought about by my country’s invasion (I’m in the U.S. and a citizen of this imperial tyrant). Many of us here protested, marched and wrote letters to try to prevent this tragedy, but we failed to sway the ruling class. Now the invader’s puppets executed Saddam on Eid al adha, adding insult to injury. We know that Saddam was an evil man (as he was when he was supported and supplied for many years by the U.S.), but his behavior doesn’t justify our own violations of international law and human rights.

    International law and human rights seem like such arcane concepts these days, eclipsed as they are by fear mongering and competing fundamentalisms. Eleanor Roosevelt must be rolling over in her grave as the principles outlined in the 1948 UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights get further and further eroded.

    Now on the eve of 2007, the images of a man swinging from the gallows are everywhere, just as we paraded the disfigured heads of his sons on the front pages in July 2003. What barbarity! Yes, Al-Qaeda terrorists and brutal dictators like Saddam use barbaric methods also, but must the international community accept this lowest form of human behavior as a baseline? I mourn, not for Saddam, but for our own defiled humanity.

    To find a hopeful note for this New Year, I think of Gerda Lerner who survived Nazism as a Jew and McCarthyism as a Communist to become an influential feminist and scholar. She said that to survive dark times we have to keep our integrity, refuse conformity and maintain hope in democracy. We also need the support and power of sisterhood, exemplified by womensspace, to sustain us in our struggles for justice. Thank you, Heart, for everything you do.

    To those suffering in Iraq, I am so sorry for what has been done to you with my tax money, if not my consent. You are not forgotten; many of us here are trying to stop this nightmare. Peace and justice for all in the New Year.

    Posted by roamaround | December 31, 2006, 5:49 pm
  8. roaming around, welcome, and thank you for your beautiful, thoughtful post. You should be posting everywhere!

    I spent time yesterday reading through Iraqi bloggers’ responses to what was happening. I was struck by how similar most of their responses were to ours, like, “Say what? Huh? Executed already? How did that happen! Yeah, he was horrible, but why is this good? Who wants an execution on our holy day?” That last especially, sort of like executing Saddam on Christmas? Imagine the news on Christmas Day consisting of the photos some are seeing now. I am afraid to watch the news– I can’t stomach this kind of thing.

    I know that all Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International can really say is that they oppose the death penalty and this is wrong for that reason. But this is wrong for SO many reasons! Meanwhile ordinary Iraqi citizens, who know no more than we do about how this happened, sit fearfully in their homes having lost friends and relatives. 😦 One of the bloggers I read described sitting at dinner with her family and an explosion going off and then something hitting their window and shattering it– everyday life in Baghdad and Mosul and other places. 😦

    Yes, Saddam was, I believe, guilty of crimes against humanity. So is George Bush!

    I’m thankful for the internet which allows us to keep in touch with all of our sisters and brothers across the world this way. At least we aren’t as faceless and nameless to each other as we have been in the past.

    Thanks again for the beautiful, inspiring words, roam around.


    Posted by womensspace | December 31, 2006, 6:27 pm

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