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Third Carnival of Radical Feminists is Coming! Get Your Last-Minute Submissions In! And Some Thoughts About Time and Money

Third Carnival of Radical Feminists

The Third Carnival of Radical Feminists is scheduled for June 30 over at Jo’s place, Stanselen.  She says you can get last-minute submissions in even though the deadline has theoretically passed.  That’s what I like about anarchafeminist types like Jo;  we agree that the way time is measured under male heterosupremacy is dehumanizing and oppressive, and that keeping human-being time, people time, wimmin-time, feminist time, instead, is liberatory and empowering, especially when we’re doing it together, in solidarity and intentionally. 

So submit all of the great radical feminist articles you’ve been reading here.

If you were so unfortunate as to miss the First Carnival of Radical Feminists, or the Second Carnival of Radical Feminists, you should take a look!

If you’d like to sign up to host a future carnival, please do!  The current schedule is here and the first opening is in January of 2008.

I will leave you with a word about patriarchal time from Sonia Johnson (who, this weekend, I will be meeting and hearing for the first time since I encountered her life-changings writings!)

All around me every day I hear people complain, “I don’t have time.”  “There’s not enough time.”  “I need 36 hours in every day.”  I say it myself, although I know that there is plenty of time, all the time we could possibly ever need; time is what there is an infinite supply of in the universe, and time is life.  Perhaps we should ask ourselves the obvious question, “If there is plenty of time and I don’t have it, where is it, who has it, and how can I get my share of it back?”

 That this scarcity of time has seemed inevitable until now is instructive.  If you can persuade people that there isn’t enough time, if you can persuade them that this time deprivation is unchangeable “reality,” and if you can simultaneously organize society in a way that bears out your contention that there seems in fact to be very little time, you can steal people’s lives from them.

The initial time/life you would steal would be from their minds.  Your success in getting people to think there is no time would cause them to limit themselves.  By causing them to behave as if it were true, you could effectively establish time-poverty as their reality. 

What would happen to tyrants if slaves refused the concept of limited time?  What if they believed that there was all the time they needed, and freely partook of it to think, to talk and listen to one another, to dream, to love fully, to create music, art and literature, to  play games and climb mountains?  Tyranny, nonfreedom, means primarily having no time for oneself.  Ownership of others’ bodies means dictating how those bodies spend their time.

…Free people need not only space — rooms of their own — but time of their own as well.  Any benificent society, therefore, that is not simply the old one under a different rubric must first free our time, give us “free time.”  That such an oppression as “free time” exists is evidence that the rest of our time is “slave time.”

…In the Western world we often hear the phrase “Time is money,” and every successfully socialized adult knows that this is not meant metaphorically but literally.  We blur any distinction between time and money thoroughly and unconsciously every time we talk about “spending time,” or deplore what certain activities “cost” us in time, or always try to “save” time, or “give” time in the place of money… or when we pay a fine with money rather than with time in jail.

If time and life are in many critical ways synonymous, and if in patriarchy time really is money, then it follows that on planet Earth, money is life.

…I am determined to live in a reality in which the concept of “earning” a living seems as bizarre and sad to everyone as it has come to seem to me…From that language the irony is evident:  by making us perceive success at work as proof of our value, patriarchy tricks us into working long, hard hours to maintain it as a system.

 But more than that, that phrase exposes the father’s cruel lie that we must earn the right to live.  …We know that life doesn’t need to to be — in fact, can’t be — earned, and we are destined to recreate that reality.

[Feminist economist Hazel Henderson posits a] coming “era of posteconomic policy making.”  “From now on,” she writes, “as the economic and price-system levers become ever more divorced from reality, industrial societies will need to refocus their attention on policy levers that are nonmonetary, nonfiscal, and nonprice-oriented.”

This is where women … are the gifted, the geniuses — in value-based decisions; that is, in decisions that are nonmonetary, nonfiscal and nonprice-oriented.

Although men have .. used economics to terrorize women (and one another), it is equally true that their “economy” is doomed.  Soon everyone who is not already doing so will have to rethink radically the ways we live and work together. 

…[When the tyranny of money is broken], the tyranny of Father time [ends]…[We will not] obey the clock…or live by its dictates.  [We will not] wear a wristwatch.  …[We will know] that having not just enough but an abundance of time is the cornerstone of [our] freedom.

…I believe that for hundreds of thousands of years before patriarchy, time was “Mother time,” perceived by humans as rich, abundant and shimmeringly alive, loosely spiral, deeply and freely associative, sensorially satisfying, connective and restful.  … I long for a regulation-free world of self-governing people. …It seems to me, as it has seemed to women before me that only by combining our dreams, our energy, and our material and cultural resources in self-designed and self-created communities with one another can we hope to free enough time for enough women to … make tyranny an anachronism.

–Sonia Johnson, in Wildfire:  Igniting the She/Volution, 1989

Heart

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19 thoughts on “Third Carnival of Radical Feminists is Coming! Get Your Last-Minute Submissions In! And Some Thoughts About Time and Money

  1. Genius!! Absolutely Genius!
    and Gee I’m like so behind the times, lol, yes pun intended, i had no idea there was even a feminist economist :0,
    i swear i’ve been under a rock for far too long and its like i just crawled out and seeing that there is a sun for the first time–
    and it breaks my heart to realize, how much misery has stolen from me, my life….
    i read some of the First Carnival yesterday and was very impressed, anyway,
    its funny because i am taking a sabbatical Away from the cyberworld due just to that issue of ‘time’. But not just for time, but to take some time away to heal…
    which for me is catch 22, as i’m extremely isolated [circumstances] and i do mean extremely,
    so after reading this, i think instead i’ll just limit my cyber time and see how that works…
    balance, its difficult to find balance when there is so much coming at you and so much to be responsible for…
    and the more bogged down you are the more relevant the above article is,
    Tasha

    Posted by Tasha | June 20, 2007, 1:29 pm
  2. “a regulation-free world of self-governing people”

    Contradiction.

    “This is where women … are the gifted, the geniuses — in value-based decisions; that is, in decisions that are nonmonetary, nonfiscal and nonprice-oriented.”

    Sexist.

    “What if they believed that there was all the time they needed, and freely partook of it to think, to talk and listen to one another, to dream, to love fully, to create music, art and literature, to play games and climb mountains?”

    Naive. For one thing, “they” would die rather quickly from starvation. Leisure is a luxory for those who have already taken care that they can survive. Whatever their level of technological development or the presence or lack of a patriarchy, people need to eat and take care of their basic needs. That takes time.

    “I say it myself, although I know that there is plenty of time, all the time we could possibly ever need; time is what there is an infinite supply of in the universe, and time is life.”

    Bullshit. Given that human life is limited, and sometimes extremely brief, there ISN’T all that much time available. Time is a limited, nonrenewable resource because, shocking thought, people die. That the universe may have an infinite supply is irrelevant when poor mortal you does not.

    Posted by Vinegar | June 20, 2007, 3:46 pm
  3. a “regulation-free world of self-governing people”

    Contradiction.

    Where people govern themselves, they do not need to be regulated by others.

    This is where women … are the gifted, the geniuses — in value-based decisions; that is, in decisions that are nonmonetary, nonfiscal and nonprice-oriented.”

    Sexist.

    Unless you’re talking about the way women, before their consciousnesses have been raised, might have issues with internalized sexism, and I don’t think you are, then you’re wrong. It’s not possible for women to be “sexist” against men. For the same reason it’s not possible for other marginalized groups to be whatever-ist against their oppressors. Sometimes women are sexist towards other women. That’s one reason we need feminism. But women can’t be “sexist” against men.

    And a note: the reason women are gifted, and geniuses in value-based decisions, nonmonetary, nonfiscal, nonprice-oriented, is, we’ve had far more experience with that than men have, over millennia, given that guardianship of relationships and caregiving was thrust on us and extracted from us whereas participation in the marketplace and in decisions around money were forbidden to us until very recently.

    “What if they believed that there was all the time they needed, and freely partook of it to think, to talk and listen to one another, to dream, to love fully, to create music, art and literature, to play games and climb mountains?”

    Naive. For one thing, “they” would die rather quickly from starvation. Leisure is a luxory for those who have already taken care that they can survive. Whatever their level of technological development or the presence or lack of a patriarchy, people need to eat and take care of their basic needs. That takes time.

    Huh. I think that music, art, and literature are absolutely essential to the perpetuation and survival of nourishing, life-giving existence on this planet. Musicians, artists, and great writers earn their living — if they do — creating, in ways which benefit all of us. More and more people, all people, ought to have this privilege of making their way, surviving, having the bread and butter, shelter, warmth, that they need in this world on the basis of their own giftedness, what each person brings to the human table, with all human beings sharing their gifts with one another like a big ol’ party, instead of this lockstep, death-like process which we call “earning a living” so we can “survive.”

    I think a whole lotta people make a buttload of cash playing certain “games,” like football and baseball and golf, and a buttload of people are happy to pay them. I think a lot of people make a lot of money, and lose it, and benefit from the fact that others win and lose, in games like blackjack and roulette. But, I don’t think competitive sports will survive post-patriarchy, which is another post for another day. I’m just pointing out the overall dufusness of your comment.

    Love, creativity, music, art, literature, mountain-climbing and similar exertions and achievements, playing games, listening, talking: these are essential to the life of the human mind, to the life of the spirit, to the mental, spiritual, emotional and physical health of all people. They are not and should not be “luxuries.” We are a sick planet, a sick culture, a sick world for lack of these life-giving activities and pursuits. Entire institutions and industries would become irrelevant if we were to prioritize everything on that list which you call “leisure” and “luxury”: gone would be the need for most “therapy,” most “psychology,” most “healthcare” and healthcare practitioners, most drugs and pharmaceuticals, most religions, (and all destructive religions). It is via all of these that human beings transcend the difficulties of their lives, are inspired to leadership and greatness, transmit human history and herstory, find inspiration to continue in the face of grief and loss, establish communities which are life-loving, life-giving, life-sustaining and sustainable.

    “I say it myself, although I know that there is plenty of time, all the time we could possibly ever need; time is what there is an infinite supply of in the universe, and time is life.”

    Bullshit. Given that human life is limited, and sometimes extremely brief, there ISN’T all that much time available. Time is a limited, nonrenewable resource because, shocking thought, people die. That the universe may have an infinite supply is irrelevant when poor mortal you does not.

    If you spent much time around woman-centered wimmin, you’d hear them talking about wanting to be “in the moment.” And that’s because women remain an oppressed, victimized people whose moments can be robbed from them by those who hate and despise them. They have learned what most oppressed persons learn: how to live in, and enjoy and appreciate every moment. The privileged assume they’ll be alive tomorrow and next year and 10 years from now; oppressed persons do not.

    Which gives marginalized persons intelligence, strength and wisdom not usually found in the privileged, who squander the moments they do have accumulating and planning for the moments to which they feel themselves entitled and which they assume will come.

    Here’s what’s true. We have this moment, right now. Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow isn’t guaranteed to any of us. The moment of our death is not known to any of us. But we have this moment right now, to live abundantly and well, to enjoy and appreciate and revel in. This is what oppressed persons know. This is what the poor and marginalized people know. This is why the values of the oppressed and the poor often do not mesh with the values of the rich and the privileged. In any event, again, we’ve got this moment; that’s it. It’s all we have and it’s all we need and it’s more than enough. It’s renewable and unlimited for each of us until the moment that we die.

    If you spent more time loving, creating, listening to good music, reading great literature, appreciating great art, thinking, listening, Vinegar, then you might have something to say which would be worth reading. And the moments of your own life might be something you come to value.

    For now, you have emitted more than your share of foul emissions which are stinking up the place, and so I am blacklisting you. I generally like to respond to comments like yours once in a while, because they offer an opportunity to point out the overall shortsightedness and lack of vision and creativity that exist in the general population.

    But for now, see ya, and good luck.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | June 20, 2007, 5:45 pm
  4. Oh, how I would love to see Mary Daly do a dissection of Vinegar’s comment above.

    Quote from Vinegar: “Naive. For one thing, “they” would die rather quickly from starvation. Leisure is a luxory (sp) for those who have already taken care that they can survive. Whatever their level of technological development or the presence or lack of a patriarchy, people need to eat and take care of their basic needs. That takes time.”

    First, making an obvious statement like “you have to have your basic needs met no matter what type of society you live in” as a means to distract from the conversation about what type of life/society we would actually like to dream and build is a pathetic attempt to derail any actual discussion. We aren’t falling for it.

    Pretending that saying we could live our lives freely and fully is the same thing as saying we could all subsist on air alone in the absence of the patriarchy is your own straw man.

    Second, the notion that the hyper consumerist society that we “spend” our time on in the U.S. has providing basic needs as its primary purpose is laughable. I work 40+ hours a week in an industry that is not essential to the survival of the human species. Most of the stuff I buy/own is not necessary for my personal survival either. I reckon there are quite a few readers here who could say the same.

    Technology used for purposes other than churning out disposable product to be consumed could help meet the basic needs of the entire human population. Why doesn’t it? Hierarchy. Power over. Dominance. If we care about humans having their basic needs met AND about having more “leisure” time then we work to end the institutions that oppress humans.

    Next quote regarding time: “That the universe may have an infinite supply is irrelevant when poor mortal you does not.”

    It may be irrelevant to you but it is probably not irrelevant to the universe. I happen to believe that I am a part of the universe and not outside it. I was raised atheist so I know what point of view you are espousing here but I disagree with it. Since I will be dead soon that should not bother you. Heh.

    Further, physicists do not currently understand the nature of time. Neither do I and neither do you. Does it go in a straight line as it appears to us (remember the earth also appears flat from our perspective)? Does it have layers? Does it move faster and slower depending on circumstances? Is it cyclical? Nobody knows. Awesome!

    End of response to Vinegar.

    Heart, I think the concept of “leisure” is fascinating. Especially the way some people use the term as if leisure is a vice or a privilege. I will put together another comment in a little while on that topic.

    looking glass

    Posted by Lookingglass | June 20, 2007, 5:58 pm
  5. Dang, Tasha, you have to read some feminist economists!

    Check this out.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | June 20, 2007, 6:00 pm
  6. Normally i wouldn’t comment,
    but with an Avatar like ‘vinegar’ which speaks volumes btw…all in itself,
    i can’t resist,
    so, lets take this apart, from a CLASS–POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE,
    “a regulation-free world of self-governing people”
    Contradiction. —
    Gee, i suppose the founding of ‘Contract Law’ is a contradiction then, the laws THAT GOVERN YOUR LIFE NOW…or maybe “We the People” escaped you,
    the concept of ‘regulation-free world or self-governing people is not some new idea from yonder land, the principle has always been…
    its the ‘application and the demographics and the labor divisions and racial divisions and class divisions [much over the private ownership which was The flaw that was the Thorn in the origins of Contract Law]–that Mutual Contract agreed upon by INDIVIDUALS COMING TOGETHER AS COLLECTIVE WHILE KEEPING INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS IN RESPECT TO OTHER INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS–
    now if you want to debate/theorize whether this theory can be accomplished in large populations/or land size, then That is understandable…but in small regions the application of self regulated peoples has not only been applied but has succeeded, until the ‘power despots’ who are opposed to ‘people regulating themselves’ have intervened via military/violence–example, the Chiapas.
    “This is where women … are the gifted, the geniuses — in value-based decisions; that is, in decisions that are nonmonetary, nonfiscal and nonprice-oriented.”
    Sexist.
    Hmmm, so I suppose then you would concur, taking That logic, that the CENTURIES OF THE PRAISE OF THE ANALOGY OF THE DICK, the genius of male inventors and the genius and value placed on male systems, polemics, economics, MILITARIES, WARS, WEAPONS, BOMBS, BIO-WARFARE, ETC…is then,
    SEXIST AND RACIST [THAT DARWIN WHITE MALE LADDER OF THE SPECIES].
    “What if they believed that there was all the time they needed, and freely partook of it to think, to talk and listen to one another, to dream, to love fully, to create music, art and literature, to play games and climb mountains?”
    Naive. For one thing, “they” would die rather quickly from starvation. Leisure is a luxory for those who have already taken care that they can survive. Whatever their level of technological development or the presence or lack of a patriarchy, people need to eat and take care of their basic needs. That takes time.
    Oh, I see, LOL, you mean now, the LUXURY AND PRIVILEDGE THAT MEN HAVE HAD FOR CENTURIES NOW, TO DO ALL THAT AND NOT ONLY THAT BUT GET PAID FOR IT, CREATE ENTIRE MALE SYSTEMS OF HIEARARCHY [SIC] IN AND AS FOR TIME–
    NEVER WAS AN ISSUE, THEY HAD WOMYN SLAVES DOING ALL THAT
    NEEDED WORK. IN FACT, ITS STILL THAT WAY TODAY ISN’T IT, IN MANY REGIONS…
    LIKE IN PARTS OF AFRICA, FOR INSTANCE, MEN SIT ON THEIR ASSES ALL DAY, CHATTING IT UP WITH THE ELDERS WHILE THEIR
    WIFE AND SLAVE WIVES AND CHILD SLAVES DO ALL THE
    AGRICULTURE
    CLEANING
    LOOKING FOR WOOD
    CARING FOR ANIMALS
    COOKING
    CARING FOR YOUNG
    BUILDING THE HUTS
    DIGGING FOR WATER
    HMMMM, DOESN’T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM WHEN MEN HAVE THAT ‘TIME’ DOES IT?
    BUT DARE A WOMAN EVEN SUGGEST SUCH A THING–ITS NAIVE,
    SO, ARE MEN NAIVE THEN?
    “I say it myself, although I know that there is plenty of time, all the time we could possibly ever need; time is what there is an infinite supply of in the universe, and time is life.”
    Bullshit. Given that human life is limited, and sometimes extremely brief, there ISN’T all that much time available. Time is a limited, nonrenewable resource because, shocking thought, people die. That the universe may have an infinite supply is irrelevant when poor mortal you does not.
    AND FOR WOMYN,
    LIFE SPAN IS BECOMING MORE LIMITED AS VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMYN INCREASES, NOT ONLY THAT,
    TIME, THE LIFE SPAN OF WOMYN, ISN’T EVEN DEEMED WORTHY BY MAJORITY OF MEN…MORTALITY OF WOMYN, IS IN MEN’S HANDS, WHEN IT HAS
    NOT BUSINESS BEING IN THEIR HANDS. [generally speaking here, in reference to patriarchy/misogynic systems/social mores]
    you say time is life,
    so, why is it then, that men see no issue, with taking that life, from womyn?
    or is, TIME, ALSO, A MALE CONSTRUCT AND A MALE
    PRIVILEDGE?
    [ironically however, and maybe this is due to all that ‘work womyn do so men can enjoy their arts, leisure, connecting with each other and all that other ‘LUXURY’ you refer to here, that Naivity–while the SLAVES TAKE CARE OF THE NECESSITY OF LIFE, WHICH YES, CONSUMES
    ALL OF WOMYN’S TIME…
    maybe why womyn are stronger, eh,
    and LIVE LONGER, UNLESS SOME IDIOT MAN KILLS THEM WITH HIS HANDS,
    THAN THE LAZY ASS PRIVILEDGE NAIVE MALES DO….
    and That,
    is the Real Vinegar of Humanity and why more people, including wise men,
    ARE STARTING TO DUMP THE OLD PATRIARCHIAL VALUES, SO THEY CAN DRINK THE WATER, FOR PARCHED WEARY SOULS==
    HUMANITY HAS HAD ENOUGH VINEGAR–SO HAS MOTHER EARTH,
    THAT VINEGAR==BY MALE’S CONSUMING TIME, OWNERSHIP, DESTRUCTION–YOU KNOW,
    ALL THAT GENIUS SHIT THEY DO–
    WHY WE HAVE THAT WATER CRISIS ON EARTH,
    ONE OF THE FUTURE WEAPONS OF GENOCIDE, [eg Bolivia/privitization of water–poor would have done without and they have little as it is, water wars between Israel/Jordan, Cyprus/Greece, etc]
    we had better dump the Vinegar, and soon…that means,
    DUMPING THE TRIED AND FAILED TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN,
    THAT WHOLE ‘ANALOGY OF THE DICK’.
    Tasha

    Posted by Tasha | June 20, 2007, 6:37 pm
  7. and…like i said,
    normally i wouldn’t comment,
    but that was ‘baiting’ if i ever saw it…and
    not even clever baiting–pretty damn transparent. the ‘sexist, naive, bullshit’
    three common words by a chauvinist. LOL
    Tasha

    Posted by Tasha | June 20, 2007, 6:42 pm
  8. and concerning art/nature…
    i found this, link from a link from a link from the First Radical Carnival,
    awesome site, brilliant woman, and the photos are Amazingly beautiful–
    so to inspire you this day,
    http://ornamental.typepad.com/
    Tasha🙂

    Posted by Tasha | June 20, 2007, 6:46 pm
  9. Hey! Wow, i’ve been browsing the blog above, and i’m like just found another online home. I’m a naturalist, always have been and its not something that i’ve ever shared really…never came to mind but i have always collected feathers and leaves and even woods,
    and i saw this, a link from Ornamental,
    oh you should see this, if you are a naturalist you’ll love this blog. :)http://sepia-art-studio.typepad.com/naturalist/
    oh, did you see on ornamental, if you scroll down, the segment on the ‘holding a tree’, Isn’t that awesome?!!
    anyway…thought i’d add it here, definately adding all these on me blog this week…
    and this is what i found just hitting links from links from that First Carnival…
    so glad you kept it posted. Thank you Heart. 🙂 and all of you who contribute to the Carnival…you never know how just journeying through inspirational blog links can lead you to some amazing online adventures in the world of nature and arts.
    tasha

    Posted by Tasha | June 21, 2007, 3:45 am
  10. http://sepia-art-studio.typepad.com/naturalist/
    see if that shows up better
    tasha

    Posted by Tasha | June 21, 2007, 3:46 am
  11. just curious but when i tried to read KD and Aletha’s post on the Heather Jones/Cyclone, it shows removed,
    so does that mean Heather’s case went through? or was it that i was ‘not in conformity’ or something?
    not that its a big deal…but i am curious,
    Tasha [oh, i won’t conform though, stand in solidarity, yes, give up free individual thinking, hell no, done enough of that under men…sick of it]
    Tasha

    Posted by Tasha | June 21, 2007, 5:19 pm
  12. Well I liked the Johnson quotation. Have fun in Santa Fe!!!🙂

    Posted by profacero | June 22, 2007, 9:28 am
  13. Hey, Profacero, I don’t understand why your trackback doesn’t work. I went to your blog to find the link to what you posted and can’t find it, so maybe you can repost just the link so people can get to it!

    And yeah, Sonia Johnson has written some amazing, amazing stuff. And I am about to meet her!

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | June 22, 2007, 12:31 pm
  14. Sometimes I guess you feel like you have to let these posts through, Heart.😉

    “a regulation-free world of self-governing people”

    Contradiction.

    Nooo..if you really want to be picky, regulations are what govern OTHER people. Regulations are what one person applies to another person along with themselves. Self-governing people could be individualistic, though I understand her to mean something more democratic, and against rulership, and the rejecting simply the connotation of the word “regulations” as expansive and oppressive and not the technical meaning. I do not know why you couldn’t see the whole picture.

    “This is where women … are the gifted, the geniuses — in value-based decisions; that is, in decisions that are nonmonetary, nonfiscal and nonprice-oriented.”

    Sexist.

    I just wonder if this person recognizes sexism and is bothered by sexism in all its forms, or does he/she go home and enjoy the latest “two in the hole” pornography?

    “What if they believed that there was all the time they needed, and freely partook of it to think, to talk and listen to one another, to dream, to love fully, to create music, art and literature, to play games and climb mountains?”

    Naive. For one thing, “they” would die rather quickly from starvation. Leisure is a luxory for those who have already taken care that they can survive. Whatever their level of technological development or the presence or lack of a patriarchy, people need to eat and take care of their basic needs. That takes time.

    Not naive at all. Leisure is absolutely not a luxury. We, in patriarchy, just make it one. In fact, if you knew anything about indigenous cultures you would know that not much of the day is really spent on preparing food. Food is gathered, prepared, and saved. Hunting is a superfluous means of occassional nourishment. However even though plenty time IS spent on food, food is as act of communal gathering, symbology and art, with meaning, and the time spent eating it together is leisure. There is quite a bit of leisure even besides that. Even now, USA ranks somewhere among the least countries that enjoy any leisure at all. Technology has not saved the average person any time at all.

    For some reason, men do not like leisure or being alone with themselves.

    “I say it myself, although I know that there is plenty of time, all the time we could possibly ever need; time is what there is an infinite supply of in the universe, and time is life.”

    Bullshit. Given that human life is limited, and sometimes extremely brief, there ISN’T all that much time available. Time is a limited, nonrenewable resource because, shocking thought, people die. That the universe may have an infinite supply is irrelevant when poor mortal you does not.

    This really shows your, well, dissective view of the world.

    Posted by Kiuku | June 23, 2007, 11:12 pm
  15. On my trackback, it is because the post is still upcoming – yes I am faking the date / time stamp because AROOO says I am posting too fast and because I am about to be gone for a few weeks … so I am spacing the posts I am doing now out over that time! But it will appear – it is programed for 28 June!🙂

    Posted by profacero | June 24, 2007, 6:33 am
  16. My gosh, this blog is like a breath of fresh air! I think I’ll be hanging out here a lot!

    Peace,

    ~Chani

    Posted by Chani | June 24, 2007, 3:51 pm
  17. Yay!!! Welcome ((( Chani ))).

    Posted by Mary Sunshine | June 25, 2007, 2:35 pm

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