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Why Do the Jena Six Get More Coverage than the New Jersey Seven and Update on How to Support the New Jersey Seven

Queer Woman of Color has a good post up entitled It’s Not the Oppression Olympics But I Still Wonder Why the Jena 6 Got More Coverage than the New Jersey 7.   If you haven’t read about the Jena Six, go here.  I blogged about the Lesbian Seven here.    In my opinion,  not only have the Jena Six received far more coverage, the coverage they’ve received is more sympathetic by far than the coverage the New Jersey Seven received (i.e., headlines referring to teenage girls defending themselves as “Killer Lesbians”.)

The New Jersey Seven continue to need support.  A Myspace and a Yahoo group have been set up for those of us who want to continue to support them financially and in other ways. 

Heart

Discussion

14 thoughts on “Why Do the Jena Six Get More Coverage than the New Jersey Seven and Update on How to Support the New Jersey Seven

  1. To me, the Jena six is about men. Black men and white men. Even though a schoolyard fight should not bring a second-degree murder charge, Bell, still assaulted someone. About some community service. I think people think Bell should be rewarded for his violence. The racists are rewarded by other racists and the violence is rewarded by the people who are the victim of the racists.

    In other words, VIOLENCE is being held the hero. It is a man thing. If the black men and white men stopped fighting and deciding to accept and treat each other as equals, I believe they would still both hate women and attack women and treat women with contempt.

    The New Jersey Seven were minding their own effing business. Were attacked by a male, were sentenced by men, and were imprisoned by men. The two situations do have something in common. In both incidents, men were the driving force behind the violence.

    My activism is behind the women always.

    Posted by E. K. "Kitty" Glendower | September 8, 2007, 6:11 pm
  2. Should be [how] about some community service.

    Digging a little deeper. This is about protecting violence. Protecting the use of violence. Women defend themselves and are punished. What is the message? Leave the violence to men. We can say in the black/white man saga (Jena 6) the white men are protecting their use (psychological warfare) of violence by punishing the black men for using the violence (physical assault), hence, the white men are feminizing the black men. Yet in the New Jersey Seven, the black and white men work together to protect their right to being the only ones to use violence. I am sure there were white men in the court system if not on the street. If I recall the man who actually attacked, (provoked) the women were black, and what color was the man who actually stabbed their attacker (was he white or black). Really, it does not matter his color because they were all men. He did not get in trouble but the women did, because how dare those women utilize a defense (violence or the threat of violence), a defense that is only reserve for men.

    If women appropriate violence from men then men will feel cheated, thus vulnerable…………………………………they will feel like……………… women . Can’t have that.

    *Not advocating violence, nor would I like to see a world where women are violent. I don’t want anyone to be violent.

    Posted by E. K. "Kitty" Glendower | September 8, 2007, 6:51 pm
  3. You can’t let black dykes get away with fighting back or you’d soon have white heterosexual housewives demanding the same.

    Posted by justicewalks | September 8, 2007, 7:35 pm
  4. justicewalks,

    Ha!
    😀

    Posted by Mary Sunshine | September 8, 2007, 9:02 pm
  5. Kitty and justicewalks, my daughter and I were talking about this– she had not heard about the Lesbian 7. She had, of course, heard about the Jena 6. She was telling me there are all sorts of T-shirts and everything for the Jena 6. So she asked me what the Lesbian 7’s Facebook was. Of course, they don’t even have a Facebook. 😦 Well, now they do because my daughter created one for them. She did find one of the Lesbian 7’s Myspaces, very touching and sad.

    When we were talking, my daughter said she always says, you have to continually keep the pressure on white people.

    Justicewalks, you’re going to have to knock if off with the succinct and random acts of brilliance. You know how folks take to that kind of think. Ha. Wry, bitter and weary “ha.”

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | September 8, 2007, 9:06 pm
  6. You can’t let black dykes get away with fighting back or you’d soon have white heterosexual housewives demanding the same.

    Yep. That sums it up.

    Posted by E. K. "Kitty" Glendower | September 8, 2007, 9:06 pm
  7. I was going to correct that typo and replace “think” with “thing,” but I like “think” too.

    And we also have to continually keep the pressure on men.

    Only problem, where men pressure men, sometimes, usually men listen. Where women pressure men, women get hurt.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | September 8, 2007, 9:16 pm
  8. ***Justicewalks, you’re going to have to knock if off with the succinct and random acts of brilliance.***

    Don’t knock it off, JW, keep going!

    (Jumping up and down cheering!)

    Posted by Branjor | September 8, 2007, 9:26 pm
  9. Heart,

    I found this Lesbian 7 Facebook:

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2425578109

    Is that the one your daughter started?

    Mary

    Posted by Mary Sunshine | September 8, 2007, 9:26 pm
  10. No, that isn’t the one my daughter made, so they DO have a Facebook. Yay for that. Well, now they have at least two. 🙂

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | September 8, 2007, 10:38 pm
  11. Aletha and I sort of discussed this in a thread about Democracy Now! on the boards. I emailed Amy Goodman at least two months ago with links and the INCITE! contact info, asking her to cover the story, and nada, nothing, zip. Not one mention of the NJ Seven. I’ll go out on a limb and say that many, many people (not everyone) are even aware of the Jena 6 because of extensive coverage on DN!

    Posted by Melissa | September 8, 2007, 11:01 pm
  12. Hi, everyone.

    There are (two separate) online petitions for the Jena Six and for the New Jersey Lesbian Four (http://www.petitiononline.com/theseven/). The last I checked, the Jena Six petition had something like 119,000 signatures. The imprisoned lesbians have exactly 528 signatures.

    So far, Renata and Patreese have replied to my letters. They’re both holding up okay, more or less, and they’ve both asked me to publically announce that they deeply appreciate the efforts people are making on their behalf.

    Renata sent me the URL to an organization that sends care packages to people in New York State prisons: http://upnorthservices.com/

    I just ordered from them for the first time the day before yesterday. It’s pretty easy and convenient, and they say that your package will arrive in 2 to 5 business days.

    A care package party is being planned for the four young women later this month or early next month at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/justice4newark4/.

    The women can be reached as below:

    Patreese Johnson # 07-G-0635
    AND
    Renata Hill # 07-G-0636

    are being held at

    Bedford Hills Correctional Facility
    P.O. Box 1000
    Bedford Hills, NY 10507

    Terrain Dandridge # 07-G-0637
    AND
    Venice Brown # 07-G-0640

    are being held at

    Albion Correctional Facility
    3595 State School Road
    Albion, NY 14411-9399

    TIP: Don’t bother to send self-addressed stamped envelopes; they’re not allowed to get stuff like that from outside. They’ll just waste your stamp sending your envelope back to you.

    Posted by Nicole | September 9, 2007, 10:30 pm
  13. Nicole, thanks so much for the information and the updates– very much appreciated.

    Heart

    Posted by womensspace | September 10, 2007, 1:17 am
  14. If you are able to help with the women’s appeal (with legal research, financial contributions/fundraising efforts, doing research on the judge and district attorney on the case, stuff like that), you might want to contact FIERCE.

    FIERCE (Fabulous Independent Educated Radicals for Community Empowerment) is a community organization for transgender, lesbian, gay, bisexual, two-spirit, queer, and questioning youth of color. This group seems to have taken on some of the responsibility for helping the imprisoned women in this case.

    147 West 24th Street
    6th floor
    New York, NY 10011
    (646) 336-6789
    http://www.fiercenyc.org
    Bran Fenner [bran@fiercenyc.org]

    Or you might want to contact any one of the following:

    Jessica Robertson [jessonia@gmail.com]
    Jessica Stern [sternj@hrw.org]

    Please be aware that I got all of the above names, addresses, and telephone numbers from the internet, here: http://www.fiercenyc.org

    and here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/justice4newark4/

    But I have not been in contact with any of the people mentioned above and I am not personally involved with FIERCE. I believe there are other organizations working to help the imprisoned lesbians in their upcoming appeal, but I don’t really know what’s going on with any of that. I haven’t asked Patreese or Renata about this (yet). For the time being, I’m just trying to help spread the word.

    Posted by Nicole | September 10, 2007, 12:10 am

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